Anybody with a brain can see why they lost. But the other side of it is, why did Trump win? It’s a different analysis, tied up, but it’s slightly a different analysis and what you’re seeing is that he has unique political appeal.
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Mike Papantonio: Farron, you’re probably fatigued the same way I am of why the Democrats lost. I’m just so tired of hearing it, why the Democrats lost. I know why they lost. Anybody with a brain can see why they lost. But the other side of it is, why did Trump win? Okay. It’s a different analysis really, and tied up, but it’s slightly a different analysis and what you’re seeing, the most interesting thing is that he has unique political appeal. That he’s such an enigma in the political space, that he has an appeal that most other people don’t have and I think you’ve said that before. Maybe you haven’t.
Farron Cousins: He, it’s almost part of human nature to say what would happen if everything bad happened at once? Because everybody’s felt that every now and then, just what about, what if we just had total chaos? What if we did the dumbest thing possible? Because you kind of want to know how it would turn out and I do think, not obviously a huge motivator, but I think there were plenty of people who wanted to see that happen. Now, I’m talking maybe dozens across the country that were willing to act on it. But I think that weird, let’s see where this goes.
Mike Papantonio: You think that’s it?
Farron Cousins: I think some people.
Mike Papantonio: In other words, I don’t like where I am. You’re rolling the dice. You’re at the craps table. God, I’m kind of behind. Let me go one more time. But I think this whole idea, what I’ve seen several times, not just in this article that you sent to me on Raw Story, but it is that he’s this unique political figure that nobody can quite pinpoint. That we don’t really know. Like the Greenland story or the Panama Canal story or the Canada story. You go, okay. Well I heard that, but I wonder if he’s serious and you don’t know because it always moves towards some kind of resolution. I’m going to bomb the hell out of Hamas if they don’t let this. Well, now they’re at the table. I don’t know whether there’s anything going to happen. But he is so unique in his willingness to say whatever the hell flows through mind on any given day.
Farron Cousins: Yeah. There is no filter. And I think a really good analogy is if you’re walking through the zoo and you find a key on the ground and the key says tiger cage, and you say, okay, well I could let the tigers out right now and I know if I let these tigers out.
Mike Papantonio: They might eat me.
Farron Cousins: It’s going to be really, really bad. There’s really no good outcome. But, what would happen if I let the tigers out?
Mike Papantonio: What the hell?
Farron Cousins: And that’s, I do think there are some people that said, you know what, I’m going to let the tiger out because life sucks for me right now anyway. It’s not going to get worse with the tiger. So let me take my chances.
Mike Papantonio: Farron, there may be somebody out there that it works for them.
Farron Cousins: Maybe it’s just, maybe I have problems. I don’t know.
Mike Papantonio: No, no, I want to say this. There may be somebody out there on MSNBC or CNN or somewhere in the liberal bubble. I don’t put you in the liberal bubble. You’re just not. But I’ve never seen anybody attack Trump as much as you attack Trump. It’s day after day. And when I read it, I go, yeah, that makes sense. But nevertheless, the point being, whatever it is, however you say it, now other people are saying that’s complete. That all it is, is Democratic fatigue. That’s the best argument I’ve heard. It’s Democratic fatigue. The American public got tired of the DEI issues. They got tired of the trans issues. They got tired of censorship issues. Whatever it is. Those are things that are out there, whether you agree with ’em or not. Those are elements that are out there about the Democratic party. They’re not leaders anymore. And so I don’t know. I think there is something to this appeal that Trump has. I can’t quite put my finger on it.
Farron Cousins: And I think in terms of Democratic fatigue, the real fatigue, and you and I have obviously said this, this is what cost them the election. For four years, they were told the economy is doing great and it was not doing well for them at all. Their situation was getting worse. And so they said, if we stay this course, I know where this course leads. I kind of remember where the other course led, but I kind of forgot. Let’s switch it up because you’re not doing it for me. Maybe he will, maybe he’s changed. So that’s where I’m going. And the Democrats not fixing the kitchen table issues.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah. Price of eggs.
Farron Cousins: That’s what sealed the deal, a hundred percent.
Mike Papantonio: As Carville said it just two weeks ago, it’s just economy, stupid.
Farron Cousins: Yep.
Mike Papantonio: The same thing he said and it is, I mean, it really was a big part of it. They never could get the message out. They didn’t have the right vehicle to get the message out. You had the cackler out there that was always talking about how bad Trump is. Well, you either believed in Trump or you didn’t at that point. It kind of wore it out.
Farron Cousins: Well, people knew, like, we get it. We know he’s bad. We know that he got convicted. We know about all the women. But I can’t buy my groceries today. What’s with this?
Mike Papantonio: So talk about that Democrats and they didn’t.
