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Mike Papantonio: Homan. We talked about Homan one time. This is a serious guy, whether right or wrong, he’s serious about what he visualizes. Okay. And his vision is to deport 13 million people. Now, I’ve always thought if you’re going to deport anybody, what you have to do is have in place an alternative for ’em. You can put ’em on an airplane and fly ’em back. But before you do that, fill out papers for ’em to say, I want to be an American citizen. I would like to start the process of me coming to the US. At least do that. Give it some compassion. But what he’s going to do, I really do believe that we’re going to see shoot, literally shootouts with these cartels like the Tren de Aragua or MS-13, these are people that have taken over possessions of entire condominiums. I don’t know if you followed that story, but in Colorado, they actually took over possession of an entire, I guess it was an apartment complex. Did you see this article?
Farron Cousins: Yeah.
Mike Papantonio: Was it not accurate?
Farron Cousins: There’s a lot of misconceptions, and it is a very confusing.
Mike Papantonio: Okay. Tell me about it because it’s a bothersome story to me.
Farron Cousins: What initially happened was that the landlord for the apartments was told by the city or state, anyway, officials, you have to make these upgrades. This place is unlivable. You have created a dangerous environment. Well, the landlord refused to make these upgrades, and then the tenants kind of countered by we’re not going to pay rent. And then of course, there were some people there that apparently were members of gangs, but it was not.
Mike Papantonio: It wasn’t Tren de Aragua?
Farron Cousins: It wasn’t a, I guess you would say, organized gang takeover. But it did start with a greedy landlord. But it’s still not obviously a situation anybody wants to be in.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah. But the reason I raise it is because that’s the kind of setting that Homan will start with.
Farron Cousins: Oh, absolutely.
Mike Papantonio: You see, it’ll be like Ruby Ridge, right? Feds come in.
Farron Cousins: Waco.
Mike Papantonio: Waco, it’ll be the same kind of thing. That’s what we’re getting ready to see here. And then when that happens, the American public’s going to, by God, who the hell are these people that have AK 47s and shooting at our police? Who are they? And I promise you, this is the first thing we’re going to see. He’s going to heighten the violence. He’s going to create the confrontation. And the American public will say, by God, it’s time to get rid of them and unfortunately, there’s going to be some really good people that are going to suffer that.
Farron Cousins: And the media will sell it.
Mike Papantonio: Oh, the media. Oh, it’s headline news. Firefight with MS-13. Firefight with Tren de Aragua.
Farron Cousins: They’ll be made for TV movies about it.
Mike Papantonio: Oh, absolutely.
Farron Cousins: Just like with the Koresh movement and all that. But I do think you’re right. I think Homan will be the one to do the escalation and they will pick, because they know the places they can go, where they can get the response they want.
Mike Papantonio: There’s about 10 of ’em right now that are already listed.
Farron Cousins: Yeah, exactly.
Mike Papantonio: We’re going to go here, here. Now you got the mayor in Denver saying, by God, I’m going to stop it. Really? I mean, it’s almost like this guy doesn’t have any sense of the power of the federal government. It’s like, he doesn’t know what happened in 1860, because it’s a true analysis where you had state government saying, well, by God, we’re going to do what we want to do. No, you’re not, without starting a conflict that has broad expanse. Tell me what you think about that, because I’m seeing this as a disaster for this mayor.
Farron Cousins: When you have the federal government that does have the authority, especially what’s going to happen is they’re going to declare some kind of national emergency with it. And at that point, no mayor, no governor, you’re not going to be able to do anything to stop this. What you’re going to do is make the situation worse. In fact, at this point, what may be best for you is to sit back and say, okay, listen, feds, it’s your deal. It’s your deal. You come in, you take these people. When this economy crashes, when we lose 200,000 workers overnight, that’s on you.
Mike Papantonio: Who’s going to build houses?
Farron Cousins: The National Home Builders Association has already issued that warning. Nationally, they have said, who is going to build your homes?
Mike Papantonio: We in Florida, we have experienced it, right? But for immigration in Florida, we still wouldn’t have roofs. I wouldn’t have a roof. I had the greatest team ever that they didn’t say, hey, we’re here to live. They came across the border. They worked. They went back across the border, had money to spend for their family, came back across the border. To handle this with one big stroke is a mistake. And not to have a fail safe system to where, okay, you got to go right now, but we’re going to let you fill out papers that at least can start the process to where you have a chance to come back in. That’s the humane thing to do to me.
Farron Cousins: You know, somebody asked me recently, they said, well, Farron, how do you fix the immigration problem into the United States?
Mike Papantonio: What do you say?
Farron Cousins: I say, you don’t fix it within our borders. You fix it in the other countries. We’re spending almost a trillion dollars a year on our Pentagon. We could take a fraction of that.
Mike Papantonio: And spend it in Mexico or Canada.
Farron Cousins: And say, hey, listen, Mexico, we’re not going to send weapons to Saudi Arabia. What we’re going to do is we’re going to help train your police forces and we will help you make special police forces to go in there and let’s join together and get rid of the cartels and the gangs. We can do that for a tiny fraction of what we’re spending on the Pentagon.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah. Brilliant solution, actually.
Farron Cousins: And then we go into central America, we say, listen, climate change has absolutely wrecked your farming economies. We’re going to help with irrigation systems. We are going to invest the money so that people don’t have to leave because most of these people don’t want to leave.
Mike Papantonio: I love that idea. I, absolutely love that idea.
Farron Cousins: So if we make their lives better, then you solve the issue and we get the people that come here, not because they’re fleeing horrible conditions, but because they say, listen, there’s good work opportunities.
Mike Papantonio: Well, you’re also saying that we have to work with Mexico.
Farron Cousins: Yes.
Mike Papantonio: We have to say, okay, we don’t want to open our borders, but you have to have in place some structure on your side. That costs money that Mexico doesn’t have. Rather than spending a trillion dollars in military, move some money over there. I love that solution. That’s part of the solution.
