America’s Lawyer E112: The Party conventions are now in the rearview mirror, but the corporate shadow that hung over both the Democrats and Republicans can’t be ignored. We’ll explain why both events were little more than a big love fest for corporations. One of the biggest corporate bankruptcy judges in the country was caught having an affair with a corporate defense lawyer who was steering cases his way – and there’s a good chance this affair not only swayed his decisions, but also probably impacted your life or the life of someone you know. And the founder of the popular online messaging app Telegram was arrested in France this week, causing massive backlash among the public from all over the globe. All that, and more is coming up, so don’t go anywhere – America’s Lawyer starts right now.
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Mike Papantonio: Hi, I’m Mike Papantonio, and this is America’s Lawyer. The party conventions are now in the rear view mirror, but the corporate shadow that hung over both the Democrats and the Republicans, it just can’t be ignored. We’ll explain why both events were a little more than a big love test for corporate America. One of the biggest corporate bankruptcy judges in the country, well, they were caught having an affair with a corporate defense lawyer who was steering the cases his way, and there was a good chance that this affair swayed his decisions, almost for sure, but also probably impacted your life or the life of someone that you know. And the founder of the popular online messaging app Telegram was arrested in France this week causing massive backlash among public from all over the globe. We’ve got all that and more. Don’t go anywhere. America’s Lawyer starts right now.
During both the Republican and the Democratic conventions, the issues of inflation and price gouging were at the forefront. But what was missing from the floor speeches was the fact that companies and people responsible for the pain you’re feeling were paying hundreds of thousands of dollars for private boxes at these conventions to suck up to the lawmakers or maybe future lawmakers. No surprise. They had rooms up there from the top that were costing $500,000 just so you could be in that room. And it was both sides. I mean, both Republican we’re for the working person. You really matter to us. And then they’re gonna have drinks with the corporate America that tells them, well, you know, we want to raise prices on this. We want to raise prices on insurance. We ought to be able to drill wherever the hell we want to drill. We ought to sell pharmaceuticals that might kill or cripple people and get away with it. There’s a problem with that message, isn’t there?
Farron Cousins: There really is. And I gotta give credit here, because Chris Cuomo, reporting for NewsNation, he’s on the floor actually of the DNC, started openly calling them out. And he pointed out, it was like this at the Republican convention too, but you got suites up there that start at half a million dollars. Some that go up to over one and a half million dollars.
Mike Papantonio: Yes.
Farron Cousins: And what they’re paying for is not the best seats in the house. They’re paying for access. They are paying for the opportunity to sit with these people for four days. But as Cuomo talks about, the media doesn’t talk about those, they’re not talking about the box seats. They show these happy, enthusiastic people out in the crowds and the passionate speeches on stage. But we need to know what.
Mike Papantonio: And the celebrities, oh my God, you got to show the celebrities.
Farron Cousins: But we need to know what’s happening behind those closed doors. That’s the question that the media should be asking.
Mike Papantonio: Well, I wasn’t at this convention behind closed doors, but I’ve been behind them and what they do is parade candidates. Okay. This is Joe Smith and he’s running here. He sure would like your help. Oh, by the way, he’s real good on making sure that we don’t control prices on drugs. Joe, why don’t you take it away? That’s what it’s like. It’s one after another. And so they’re sitting up there completely disassociated with all of the realities that are being talked about on the floor. That’s what’s so disgusting about it. But I don’t think it’s ever gonna change. Do you think Chris might have been upset that he wasn’t up there anymore?
Farron Cousins: Well, that’s the thing is, you know.
Mike Papantonio: Because Chris was sure up there a lot, I can tell you that much.
Farron Cousins: Yeah, probably with his brother.
Mike Papantonio: Yes, yes.
Farron Cousins: But if he were still with CNN he probably would’ve been right there in the thick of it. And I will give credit, by the way, to NewsNation, they actually do a really good job of being a true neutral in the media fight. They really do.
Mike Papantonio: You know, I think you’re right. I think you’re right. I think politically.
Farron Cousins: Dan Abrams is phenomenal, I do think.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah. They’re really trying to do that, aren’t they?
Farron Cousins: They really are.
Mike Papantonio: And I hope they can keep up. It’s not gonna help ’em with advertising as we remember Air America.
Farron Cousins: Right.
Mike Papantonio: We came out with Air America. God, you were a kid back then. But, it was a great program. We had Janeane Garofalo, Al Franken, just an incredible, Sam Seder, a lineup of, Chuck D. You remember, it was just this incredible lineup of liberal speakers. And Bobby and I had our own show called Ring of Fire. We couldn’t get advertisers because everything we talked about was in their face. We couldn’t get car dealerships to come with us because we were talking about defective car parts. Couldn’t get pharmaceutical cases to come, I mean, advertisers to come. But NewsNation, fortunately is tied into a bigger organization and they have the staying power to accomplish what we’re talking about. It’s to truly come in neutral. We try to do that on this show. It’s very difficult sometimes.
Farron Cousins: It is, yeah.
Mike Papantonio: Because the people who listen in get so freaking mad, Pap, I can’t believe that you said that. But you know, that’s what we have to accomplish, to me. So I agree with you, they’re doing a good job trying to do that.
Texas has become the hub for corporate bankruptcy cases where big businesses try to avoid paying out lawsuits. And one judge in particular oversees most of those cases. So it shouldn’t be surprising to learn that this judge is about as corrupt as possible and the reports that are coming are just as ugly as you can imagine. Bankruptcy court matters in this country, this judge and this relationship with the law firms that he’s with have bastardized justice, not just in Texas, but all over this country. Pick it up.
Farron Cousins: Yeah. What we have here is Judge David Jones, US bankruptcy Judge David Jones in Texas. And prior to this whole affair thing, New York, Delaware, that’s where companies went to file bankruptcy. That’s where all the businesses are either located or that’s where they have their mailing address in Delaware. So that’s where they would do bankruptcy. But then David Jones comes along and he says, you know what, I’m gonna make Texas the place for corporations to go to get their bankruptcy protections, whether they’re trying to keep money away from their shareholders or keep it away from civil lawsuits. I’m gonna help them. And he did that. And now Texas is the home of this. And in the process of this, he is having an affair with this corporate bankruptcy lawyer who fights for corporations to not have to pay.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah. Elizabeth Freeman.
Farron Cousins: Elizabeth Freeman.
Mike Papantonio: And she’s with the Jones Law Firm over in Texas.
Farron Cousins: And also connections with Kirkland & Ellis.
Mike Papantonio: Excuse me, Kirkland & Ellis.
Farron Cousins: Well, she had a couple, you’re right there. And so she was associated with several of them and so what happens is he starts having an affair with her. She is getting all of these other lawyers, hey, hey, hey, bring your bankruptcy case down here to my guy and he’ll handle it. And of course, they’ve highlighted several dozen cases that she brought to him that he, of course, ruled in favor of for the corporation, screwing over consumers and investors.
Mike Papantonio: Right. So here’s the point that you can’t miss on this. Okay. The kind of rulings he would make would enable the corporation to keep money, to supposedly rebuild their company, when people who had lost millions of dollars are sitting out there saying, judge, they have enough money to pay us. Can’t you make ’em pay us? No, no, no, no. They need that money for reorganization. Typically in bankruptcy court a vendor, okay, a vendor who might sell coffee machines to the company. Unfortunately, they have a higher position of being paid with the company that’s in bankruptcy, if they’ve killed or crippled or done horrible things to thousands of people. That coffee vendor has a superior position to all those people who are injured. Now, that’s where it begins. That’s just the overview.
Here, he had people that were out there saying, judge, could you show us your math? And the judge would say, I’m not gonna show, that was his exact words. He says, that’s not gonna happen. In other words, one company would say, they’re worth $7 billion, judge, what are you doing? And the judge says, no, no, no, no. They’re only worth $5 billion. And they’d say, well, can you show us the math? And he’d say, no, we’re not gonna show you the math. It was a love affair. And Kirkland & Ellis, don’t miss this point, this law firm that’s one of the biggest law firms in the world, by the way, knows about this love affair. They absolutely talk, they joke about it. Hey, let’s take it to Judge Jones because he’ll give us everything we want. The corporation will get everything. The creditors will get nothing. These people who have their lives invested in this corporation on a chance, are gonna lose everything. I mean, that’s what this is about.
Farron Cousins: And also to pay his girlfriend, he would have her listed as a referral attorney, even if she had nothing to do with it, he would go out there and say, okay, well, no, no, no. She steered the case this way. So yes, some of these fees and all of that, they must go to her, you know, 15%.
Mike Papantonio: Right. God almighty.
Farron Cousins: So he is also funneling money to this woman that he was having this affair with. And only resigned, actually resigned a couple days after this story initially came out.
Mike Papantonio: He needs to be prosecuted.
Farron Cousins: Yes.
Mike Papantonio: Okay. Now he’s with, his friend is Judge Marvin Isgur. Okay. It’s Jones and Isgur. They’re like a team. Bring your cases to us and we’re gonna give you everything you want if you’re a big corporation, and if my girlfriend, oh, by the way, says that this is something you should do. This is such an ugly story, man.
Farron Cousins: And it really, we’re talking about all kinds of things. We’re talking about pharmaceuticals, we’re talking about energy companies. There is a good chance that people watching this, you were either directly affected.
Mike Papantonio: Oh, no question.
Farron Cousins: Through your portfolio or somebody you know was directly affected being an employee of one of these companies. That’s how sprawling this story is. What this man did by corrupting the entire justice system in the state of Texas for his benefit, for his girlfriend’s benefit, and for the benefit of those other corporate lawyers.
Mike Papantonio: Okay. Let me tell you, you want to hear the real stinger on this right now. The company, Johnson & Johnson, that made baby powder, that talc that’s killed thousands of women and will continue to kill thousands of women. You know where they’re going for their new bankruptcy, bankruptcy number three? They’re going to Texas because they think you’re gonna get a good judge there. This story’s almost endless with ugly, isn’t it?
Farron Cousins: It really is. And I will say, going through this whole thing of all the horrible stories we’ve done over the years, this one, it may not be at the top. This one is close to the top.
Mike Papantonio: It is.
Farron Cousins: Because I want people to truly grasp how disgusting this story is. And if you get a chance, read the whole thing yourself, because it’s shocking. It is nothing short of shocking.
Mike Papantonio: It’s absolutely hard to read because you’re reading this article about these judges and this woman and the law firm of Kirkland & Ellis, and to them, this is like a big payday. This is a standing joke. We’ll go in front of Judge Jones because he’s having sex with Freeman and we’re gonna win. And oh, by the way, the girl he’s having sex with, she’s gonna get paid extra money too. I don’t know how it gets much uglier than that.
Farron Cousins: I’m sure it is. Even the stuff we don’t know about though.
Mike Papantonio: The death of actor Matthew Perry and the recent announcement of criminal charges have brought attention to a very dangerous pattern in America, the doctor to dealer pipeline. This is when doctors become a little more than drug dealers for their wealthy clients and it’s far more common than what you might think. As a matter of fact, it’s almost a way of doing business. As you know, we brought, this law firm actually initiated the national case with opioids. We started that case. I took the depositions, we settled it for the neighborhood of $60 billion by the time it’s all over. And that’s still not over. It’s still going. One thing we found there was doctors had become part of that feeding frenzy. Right. They’d go to a doctor, they’d say, doc, why don’t you come on out and come to Honolulu with us.
We want to give you a class on why you should give as many opioids as you can. As a matter of fact, doc, if you don’t do that, you might be sued for malpractice because your patient is going to be in pain unnecessarily. And that’s the Sackler group. Now, we’re just now, the Sackler company just came out of bankruptcy. And so we’re just now start our attack there. The documents, Farron, I would almost have to make ’em up for them to be any worse for the company. I’d almost have to write ’em and say, hey, this is really gonna kill ’em. That’s how bad the documents are.
Farron Cousins: Yeah. And it is horrible that it has to go through a tragic event like Matthew Perry, a high profile event for people to really understand this. But this is something, and we’ve seen it with celebrities going back to Elvis. They just have these doctors who know that they are slowly killing these individuals, whether it’s Elvis, whether it’s Michael Jackson, Matthew Perry, all things that people are very familiar with. But then the story dies down. Right. Okay.
Mike Papantonio: Everything’s alright.
Farron Cousins: Well, that’s over. That’s settled. It’s just these rich people. But it’s not. It’s people that don’t have $2 to go buy themselves lunch that are also addicted to these painkillers. And they go and do what’s called doctor shopping. Something we have talked about plenty of times because they know that if they go to enough people, they’re gonna find somebody, some doctor with no morals, no scruples whatsoever, looking for the quick payday. And they’ll say, yeah, sure, I can give you a 30 day prescription for this. And maybe you’re in a little more pain. Maybe you take two a day, so maybe you come back in 15 days and I can renew it for you. I can put you on something stronger here. Because a lot of times they will get kickbacks from the pharmaceutical companies for choosing those drugs over the other ones.
Mike Papantonio: Oh yeah. Big kickbacks.
Farron Cousins: And so it happens across the spectrum. It’s not just the celebrities that are using their doctors as dealers.
Mike Papantonio: This one is ketamine. Right?
Farron Cousins: Yeah.
Mike Papantonio: And so what we know is it’s a general anesthesia. We know that it causes disorientation, it skyrockets your blood pressure, your heart rhythm to dangerous levels. We know it can make you unconscious that quick. They think that’s what happened to Perry, that he became unconscious in his hot tub. But the point is, the doctors are pushing it by ways that they say, well, this sounds legitimate. I’m gonna give this out for PTSD. I’m gonna give this out for depression. And the truth is, the numbers aren’t in. The epidemiology is not in. When they make a product, this guy can go to a laboratory, for example, and he can make ketamine right there in his laboratory or somebody does. It’s not something you have to grow like, you don’t grow it. It’s not a poppy. It’s not like the opium, morphine, heroin kind of connection. This is done right there in a small lab. Right.
Farron Cousins: Yeah. And so that is another big part of this too. Other people, when you’re getting it off the street or even some of these lesser doctors, which we talked about, they will buy from these kind of dealers as well.
Mike Papantonio: No control.
Farron Cousins: And you don’t know what’s in it, if it’s a good product. And these people do become addicted, just like they become addicted to opioids. They’re being told by their doctors that this is the only way to cope with this. There’s nothing else we can do for your depression or your PTSD or your chronic pain. They don’t want other solutions because this is what’s keeping them rich and it’s killing people.
Mike Papantonio: And they’re selling it as kind of a dissociative type of medicine. You take this and you’re gonna have some euphoria. You’re gonna feel disassociated with all the problems that you have. And oh, by the way, it’s probably gonna kill you. And I’d love to say the medical profession isn’t just driving that train, but they are, again, just like they did with opioids.
Now that we’re entering the home stretch of the presidential campaign, millions of Americans are wondering why we still aren’t hearing the candidates actually talk about issues. God, we talked about, have you heard any issues from either side? I swear to God, I sat there with both of them and I’m thinking, well, for example, he’s talking, well we gotta do something about tariffs. Right? Okay. Well if you do something about tariffs, Mr. Trump, how does that affect the economy? Does it affect consumers? You got Harris talking about we need better education for younger children. We need all of these social issues, which we granted due, but how do you pay for it? It was this feel good kind of message. It panders to us, doesn’t it? But then the economists are saying, what the hell, nobody’s telling us how we’re actually gonna do this.
Farron Cousins: Right. And we are as, honestly the HuffPost of all places put it, we’re headed to the first campaign where issues don’t matter. And I know some people are probably watching this maybe from either side saying, no, Trump has policies on this, or Harris has policies on this. And listen, let me explain it.
Mike Papantonio: Have you found them? Announce ’em right now if you’ve found ’em because I haven’t.
Farron Cousins: What they have, what both folks have is talking points. Not policy. And there is a world of difference between the two and I want people to understand that. Harris has said, yes, we have to increase housing subsidies to get people housed.
Mike Papantonio: How do you do it?
Farron Cousins: That’s great. Yes, exactly. You gotta have the second part of it. Trump says, we’re gonna put tariffs on every good coming into this country and I’m gonna deport 25 million people.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah. What’s the result of that?
Farron Cousins: That’s gonna kill the economy.
Mike Papantonio: You know, they actually have a name for it. This new thing that’s developing this election cycle, it’s called, vibe based politics. I want to get a vibe going. I want to say something that everybody goes, my God, that’s brilliant. Oh yes, I would love to have that too. But at the end of the day, they don’t have any plan. They have zero plan. I think you could go to both sites for these people and ask, well, what’s the analysis of the plan? There is no analysis.
Farron Cousins: I’ve done that.
Mike Papantonio: Oh, you have?
Farron Cousins: I’ve been to both campaign websites.
Mike Papantonio: What did you find?
Farron Cousins: Last I checked, actually, Harris did not have a section on her website at all. Trump had a list of I think 14 or 15 talking points that you couldn’t even click. They were one sentence, I want to do this, I want to do that. So nobody actually has concrete plans laid out in a policy paper that says, okay, listen, I want to increase the child tax credit to $6,000, which Harris says she wants to do, which is good. But then how do we do it? Where does it come from? Where do we make up the money? There’s plenty of places to make up the money. But you’ve gotta lay it out for us, because people are going to start asking more than just what are you gonna do? But how are you gonna do it?
Mike Papantonio: Do you remember when Obama went on the stage and he talked about, I have a plan for healthcare in this country. He laid it out. You could go to his site and he could say, here’s how I’m going to do this. It wasn’t vibe politics. There was a vibe to it, but he had an explanation about it. I mean, my god, even think back to George Bush for god’s sake. That freak, he had policy ideas that were backed up with an underpinning of how he was gonna accomplish it. That is not the case with either candidate right now. And it’s so bad that they actually had to come up with this term vibe driven politics.
Farron Cousins: Well, and even with Biden, when he was running, the infrastructure bill was the big thing he was campaigning on. So they put out the specifics of the infrastructure bill, we’re gonna do this, that, the other thing. Here’s where we’re gonna pay for it. Here’s how we allocate it.
Mike Papantonio: You could go to the site and read it.
Farron Cousins: Exactly.
Mike Papantonio: Go to her site right now. Oh, you did. I’m sorry.
Farron Cousins: But it really, it is disappointing because I’m enjoying watching this Harris surge as everybody that watches the channel regularly knows. I’m loving this. But we’re kind of at the point now where it’s like, okay, let’s temper down now and start to get into the nitty gritty.
Mike Papantonio: I know you love it. I know you get angry with me. I think it’s still a sugar high. I really do. I think they’re keeping her out of the light for a reason. She needs to jump back in. She needs to tell her handlers, hell no. If you don’t think I can handle this, then we’re gonna find out and jump in and get in front of a camera and talk like a candidate. That’s just my take on it. I just think, I talked to a very good friend of mine and he’s called ’em a lot, Jackie Ryan in South Carolina, and he says, look, if they don’t put her out front, if they don’t let her talk on her own without a teleprompter, where she’s answering questions that he says this is gonna be, she’s gonna win popular vote, but she’s gonna lose the electoral college.
Farron Cousins: Well, I do think, I will say, first of all, the corporate media is so bad in this country, and the reason they’re mad she’s not talking to them is because they want the ratings. So I got no love lost for the corporate media b*tching about that.
Mike Papantonio: I know, you’ve said that before. You said that.
Farron Cousins: But she is not like Biden in 2020 where he wasn’t, she is at least still going around the country and she is talking to crowds. So she’s not hiding-hiding the way that Biden kind of did in 2020. She’s talking to people, which is good. So she’s talking to the people that make the actual decisions, not the people who are just looking for the clicks and headlines. So she can’t do it forever, obviously, a good sit down interview, 60 minutes, something would be good.
Mike Papantonio: Well, the best thing we have is Trump on the other side, can’t keep his mouth shut.
Farron Cousins: I know.
Mike Papantonio: And the guy, my God, just when you think, okay, somebody’s told the goof to stay quiet for a little while, just when you, and he sounds like he’s quiet. The next day it’s some outrageous statement. And you go, what the hell was that about?
Alright, a firestorm erupted this week when authorities in France arrested the founder of the messaging app Telegram for activities that were taking place on the platform. Most people view this as an attempt to silence free speech, myself included, as Telegram has grown to more than 1 billion users, making it even more popular than Twitter. This guy doesn’t go away, Farron, you understand? He does not just go away.
Farron Cousins: That’s what shocked me though, that this actually, there are more active users on Telegram than there are on Twitter or X. But what happened here is Pavel Durov, the man who created Telegram about 10 or so years ago, and he did it to kind of expose some government corruption. That’s what Telegram was being used for, sending these messages, essentially, Russia really wanted to take him down.
Mike Papantonio: Oh, they wanted to kill him. They wanted to assassinate the guy. I mean, really.
Farron Cousins: Yeah. So he then kind of became mobile, traveling all over the world, running Telegram from different countries at various times because it was exposing a lot of what governments across the world were doing. So he’s in France where he has dual citizenship and they nab him and they nab him because they say, aha. Telegram, I don’t know if you know this, people were using it to do crimes. So you are now liable for all of those crimes.
Mike Papantonio: Totally contrary to 230, isn’t it? Isn’t 230 about the fact that we’re not responsible for what’s up there? So Russia.
Farron Cousins: And this is the other extreme of 230 though and that’s why we gotta.
Mike Papantonio: That’s exactly, that was a very good point. But here you have a guy, the Russians want to kill him because he wants to talk about all the Russian secrets. He wants to have it out there. France says, oh, we’re different from Russia. We don’t operate like Russia. We don’t censor people who are critics. This guy is the world’s biggest troller. You know, they’re mad at him for trolling authority. If I were to say, what’s he doing? He’s trolling authority. He’s trolling the people in charge of that authority. He’s talking about issues that cause these governments such angst. And if you drill right down to it, what’s he, he’s worth $9 billion. He doesn’t have a country. He’s always on the move.
Farron Cousins: And he certainly doesn’t live like our tech billions here in the United States.
Mike Papantonio: No. Hell no. He says, I reject all that. I reject the big yachts and I reject the big houses. And he says, I’m a purist where it comes to the simple message, censorship is bad. Censorship is undemocratic. Censorship will ruin us as a civilization if we allow ourselves to do it. But not France. If you follow the buildup, Macron is trying to, he said, oh, this is completely appropriate. This is something we absolutely should be doing. Well, they’re saying the same thing that Russia said. Exactly The same reasons that Russia said it. And nevertheless, we try to distinguish ourselves in the West as being so much above that fight, of that fray.
Farron Cousins: Well, and people need to understand that if we just completely were to say that section 230 goes away completely, this starts happening in the United States. Almost immediately. But at the same time, section 230 says, oh, no, no, no, y’all can do whatever the hell you want and nobody’s ever gonna hold you accountable.
Mike Papantonio: Right.
Farron Cousins: Those are two extremes that are both awful. There has to be some kind of middle ground on this. Section 230 has to be revamped. And in this case, if you have evidence that this man is helping facilitate drug deals or criminal activity then that’s one thing. But you’ve now had plenty of time, you could have made any of that public, but you didn’t. So I don’t buy it. I really don’t.
Mike Papantonio: Farron, you and I last week did a story and the story was where Facebook was pumping out drugs. I mean, selling drugs. Right. What did they accuse him of? Well, he’s promoting the sale of the drugs. We’ve talked about so many stories with virtually all of the tech companies that have been caught up in not monitoring what should be monitoring, child pornography. What did they say?
Farron Cousins: And human trafficking.
Mike Papantonio: Human trafficking. Participating in human trafficking. So what’s different? They’re saying, well, he’s doing all that. It’s the same thing. The thing they hate about him is they can control a Zuckerberg, you see, they can say, don’t troll us. Don’t troll troll me as president or me as senator or me as House of Representative. Don’t do that. Leave us alone. So they bring him up in front of Congress and he testifies. This guy says, kiss my. He says, I’m gonna do what I wanna do because it’s called freedom of speech. He’s absolutist. I mean, that’s what the guy is.
Farron Cousins: And look, if evidence comes out that shows he’s directly involved in it. Okay.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah, of course, the arrest him
Farron Cousins: Then absolutely, sure.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah. If he’s part of any of these rings, arrest him.
Farron Cousins: But until you come out with that hard evidence, it is hard to believe that this is not some kind of politically motivated attempt to silence this guy.
Mike Papantonio: It is happening all across the EU, Farron, that is one of the problems with the EU. You do it in Germany. We do it in France. You do it in the UK. We do it in another, in Spain. You know, that’s the problem with the EU. And so this is all being driven by the EU, which is to say, he’s different than Facebook or YouTube or any of the other tech companies, he’s different.
Farron Cousins: Well, and they hold them accountable. They say, you gotta pay us $10 billion. You gotta do this. You gotta do that. Okay. But him, no, no, no. We’re gonna arrest him.
Mike Papantonio: We’re gonna put you in jail, buddy, because we don’t like you trolling our politicians. Macron, he beat the hell out of Macron all the time because he said, the guy’s a fraud. He’s covering up what’s really happening in France. Macron didn’t like that. So he said, let’s go arrest the guy. Farron, thanks for joining me. Okay.
Farron Cousins: Thank you.
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Suspicious Activity: That it had helped dirty money flow through its branches around the world, including at least 800. Plaintiffs allege that the defendants provided money and medical goods to terrorist groups, Hezbollah and Jaysh al-Adl. This is a well organized business for these individuals that carry out these attacks. Terrorism is a business and they run it like a business. They knew about what was going on for a decade. They absolutely, absolutely no question about it knew that HSBC was washing money. They had every reason to understand it was for terrorism and it was for drug cartels. Took no action whatsoever.
These banks are involved, their accounts are connected, and they’re using them to mask the transactions. The more complicated they can make the transactions, the more distance they could put between the bad guys and a seemingly legitimate purpose of these funds. They pay $1.9 billion, which is a drop in the bucket compared to what they’ve made. And nobody goes to prison. These CEOs, these bankers that made this decision, they’re safe at home. They know what they’ve done. They know it’s resulted in the death of Americans, contractors and soldiers, not just hundreds but thousands. And we look the other way because they don’t look like criminals. The die cast, the people that are responsible for it, are on Wall Street. And they don’t look like criminals. It’s almost a suspension of disbelief. Sometimes I’ll have people call me and say, is this, is this real? Do they really get away with this? Yeah, they do.
