One of the most vital voting blocs this year is a group of voters being called “double haters” – they can’t stand the thought of voting for either Trump or Biden. And this group is getting bigger as we get closer to the election. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.
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Mike Papantonio: One of the most vital voting blocks this year is a group of voters that they call themselves double haters. They can’t stand the thought of voting for either Trump or Biden and this group’s getting bigger as we get closer to the election. I’ve got Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins with me to talk about this. I don’t know many people who have better insights as to what’s going on than you, Farron. But I look at this story and I go, yeah, this makes perfect sense. Their point is, really? 300 million Americans, and we have these two juck heads to vote from. Terrifying, it was described, as terrifying. Their descriptions of both options suck. These are words from the story. I mean, it goes on and on, and I think it’s going to boil down to who sucks the less. These are actual statements that come from these fairly, very extensive kind of look at this. Absolute trash is one term that they use. I don’t, man. What’s your thought about it?
Farron Cousins: Well, it’s interesting because what these voters are saying is very reminiscent of what we saw in 2016 Trump versus Hillary, because that election became the big talking point, the lesser of two evils, and you had a lot of people mostly on the left who said, look, we’re tired of lesser of two evils voting. And then we had it again in 2020. Biden pulled ahead in the primary, ended up becoming the nominee, and then it was, well, we got to vote for the lesser of two evils. So now we’ve got the repeat of 2020. And these voters who talked to the Washington Post, and they’re all in swing states and that’s important for everybody to understand.
Mike Papantonio: Yeah, it is.
Farron Cousins: These aren’t people in deep red Alabama or deep blue California. These are swing state voters, and they say, we’re sick of it. We’re sick and tired of looking at a ballot and saying, both of these people are terrible. So I have to pick which one is least terrible. I’m not voting for somebody good. I’m voting for somebody less bad, and I’m tired of it in politics.
Mike Papantonio: Well, you know, this is the Washington Post and they very seldom do what they’ve done here, where they just say, look, we think the responses that we’re hearing are so significant. The first ones I read, absolute trash, 300 million people and this is what I have choose from. It’s terrifying. Both options suck. One option sucks less than the other. I’m praying nightly that somebody else comes along. Both men are too old, and I’m making my decision according to what’s out there and it’s frightening. One response was either one of those guys are horrible. I mean, it’s just these statements are so juiced up. Where people are just angry, man. They’re saying, really?
Farron Cousins: They’re very narcissistic, very God particle. I don’t know what to do, is what they say.
Mike Papantonio: It’s a feeling of futility and that’s what’s so ugly about it. It doesn’t insure a benefit to either party. We don’t really know what’s gonna develop. After, you would’ve thought that after, what, 34 felony convictions, right?
Farron Cousins: Yeah.
Mike Papantonio: From Trump, that there’d be a big move. There wasn’t, because they’re looking at that and they’re saying, well, okay, yeah, he’s bad, but so is Biden.
Farron Cousins: Yeah. The polls did shift in Biden’s favor, but they shifted three or four points. I mean, you would expect.
Mike Papantonio: Minuscule, it was miniscule.
Farron Cousins: Okay, we could get a 10 point swing. We should get a 15 point swing. And okay, well, you got three or four and all of that could be wiped out after the debate.
Mike Papantonio: Oh, of course.
Farron Cousins: There’s no telling what could happen. But, I think it’s very interesting here because these voters, like so many Americans, they look at each election as, okay, this is horrible, and I guess I gotta do it. And then maybe four years down the road, we get two people that I can say, hey, these are good folks. I get to pick a good person. But we keep.
Mike Papantonio: Putting that off, don’t we?
Farron Cousins: Right, right.
Mike Papantonio: Hillary and then Trump and Biden.
Farron Cousins: Every time it’s always somebody that, okay, well, next time, we’ll get the good people and we don’t ever get them.
Mike Papantonio: There are plenty of good Democrats, there are plenty of good Republicans. Where the hell are they? And it’s sickening to me. It’s absolutely deplorable to me that people are having to reach so far down and hold their nose with 300 million Americans out there to choose from and this is it. And to me, it’s so disheartening. I mean, I have to laugh at this. Have you ever heard the term double hater in an election?
Farron Cousins: No.
Mike Papantonio: That’s a new term.
Farron Cousins: Yeah.
Mike Papantonio: We have created that new term, double hater, with the election of Trump and Biden.
Farron Cousins: Which actually makes me more surprised that some of these other candidates running Bobby Kennedy Jr, Cornel West, how are they not capitalizing more on this? If everybody hates these two guys, you know.
Mike Papantonio: Because it comes down to that whole thing we talk about all the time, we’re so tribal. People don’t even listen to Bobby. They don’t even listen to Cornel. They don’t. They’ve turned their backs to ’em because they’re headline thinkers. Okay. MSNBC says this. New York Times says this. They’re headline thinkers. They can only think by what they read in the headlines without doing any research beyond that. And it’s killing us. It’s creating a whole new kind of voter called a double hater. I’ve just never dreamed we’d be here.
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