Multiple new polls from the past week show that President Biden is going to have a hard time keeping his job next year, barring some kind of miracle. The problem is that voters actually like his agenda, they just don’t like him, and there’s not much the administration can do to fix that disconnect. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.


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Mike Papantonio: Multiple new polls from the past week show that President Biden’s going to have a hard time keeping his job next year, barring some kind of miracle. The problem is that voters actually like his agenda. That’s what’s weird about it. But they don’t like him. There’s not much this administration can do about it. They’re fighting. They have the wrong talking heads out. They have the wrong people delivering the message. The message of what he’s accomplished is not out there and that’s a shame. I have Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins with me now, the best, absolutely the best commentator in social media, across the board, on progressive issues. I really do believe that. Okay. So, every time we talk about polls, you can’t believe polls. Why do you talk about polls? You’re idiots. Stop doing it. You’re hurting the Democrats. As if we’re on some kind of agenda for the Democrats or the Republicans. Sorry, gang. We’re not. Talk to me about it.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. We did have several polls, a CNN poll, a New York Times/Siena poll come out last week that basically said, listen, as it stands right now, president Biden is getting crushed in five outta six swing states that he had carried in 2020. So if that trend continues based on the current polling data, there is no viable path to reelection for President Biden. But at the same time, those polls show us, listen, the things he’s done, people like them, they like the lowering of the prescription drug costs. The real criticism is that some of them have not gone far enough. But in terms of has he accomplished things? Yes, he has. And he’s done some pretty good things.

Mike Papantonio: He has, and you know what, the ostriches out there, the ostrich followers who can’t stand that we say anything hopefully constructive to say, hey, pay attention to this. The ostrich folks are gonna say, well, you can’t believe polls. Look at the last time we went into polls. Look how wrong they are. Okay. They are wrong sometimes. But here all you’re saying, isn’t it, is it’s an indicator?

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: Something’s wrong. They have the wrong people out there speaking. They for some reason don’t like Biden. They don’t like looking. I don’t know what it is. They, when you hear creepy a lot, with that ice cream cone standing there, and I don’t know what it is, but there’s something that, it’s out there that you can’t put your finger on, but you know it’s there. And that’s what the Democratic advisors are concerned about. It’s not just his age, you know? Do you agree with that?

Farron Cousins: Yeah, absolutely. And listen, the polls are gonna change a hundred times.

Mike Papantonio: Of course they are.

Farron Cousins: Between now and next year’s election. So, yeah, we’re not putting, you and I already talked, we don’t put too much stock into what this poll says. The poll that matters though, is the one that says, hey, his unfavorability rating is pretty much equal with Donald Trump.

Mike Papantonio: 57 to 58. Donald Trump is 58% unfavorable. He’s 57. He’s president of the frigging United States, has been in office going on four years. And he’s done some good things. He really has done some good things. But here’s what makes me the angriest, I think. The people he surrounded himself with, they don’t get the criticism. Okay. The Susan Rice types, they don’t get this criticism when he makes these policy decisions, he gets all the criticism. The people he’s sending out there to show up and talk about his policies are terrible. Moreover, the only place they show up is MSNBC, maybe a little bit on CNN. Well, look at the entire viewing audience is what, 3 million on a good day?

Farron Cousins: Yeah. On a great day.

Mike Papantonio: On a great day, it’s 3 million. So you have the progressives thinking, oh man, this is great because talking head came in and talking head said what I wanted to hear, but talking head is not delivering the message to the American public. They don’t know what he’s accomplished. They have no clue. They think he’s creepy. It’s not just the age thing. There’s more to this puzzle.

Farron Cousins: Well, and you bring up a good point. He needs better people out there talking for him to the audience that are not already being spoken to. It’d be great if we could have a Bernie Sanders go out there and say, hey, listen, everybody shut up and listen to me talk. Here’s some good things that have happened over the last three years. And Bernie Sanders is a good person. He’s very likable. He’s a good person to sell that message. I think Elizabeth Warren would be wonderful selling the message.

Mike Papantonio: You know Bernie Sanders message, don’t you? You can give me 10 points on his message. Elizabeth Warren, you could give me 10 points on her message. The average American cannot give you three points about what he’s accomplished. And he’s accomplished some good stuff on infrastructure. You know, at least a little bit, a tiny, tiny bit of pushback from the pharmacy industry. Labor, he’s been, most of the time good for labor. He’s screwed up a fair amount. But overall, you say, what has he accomplished? He’s accomplished something. But they just can’t get the message out. They got the wrong talking heads. I don’t know where they’re finding these people, but they’re terrible. And the average person watching this show, all they’re watching is MSNBC. Maybe they’re watching a little CNN. So they think that message is out there, it’s not.

Farron Cousins: Right. And we had talked when he first came into office and starts putting his people in place, we talked then, I’m pretty sure we did a segment back then about how bad all the advisors were.

Mike Papantonio: We’ve done it three times, Farron.

Farron Cousins: That he was surrounding himself with. Yeah. And so when you take, because what he did, just so everybody understands, he took people that have been in Washington, DC for as long as he’s been in Washington, DC. You get all these insiders who think they know the political talking points. No, we know what to say. We know how to sell this. We’ve been around for 30 years. You have to trust us. And he did. And it’s not helping. You need to bring in.

Mike Papantonio: These are the old Hillary advisors.

Farron Cousins:: Exactly.

Mike Papantonio: The same old crew that shows up all the time, no matter how many elections they lose, those are the people advising him right now. The other part of it, and this article’s pretty good about talking about is these little paper cuts. Now you think there’s nothing whatsoever about the Hunter Biden thing. You’ve done several shows. You think it’s just a nothing burger. That’s not what the American public thinks. Okay. Now, and the point is, you have the ability to go in there and study it and see, this is real. This isn’t real. The American public doesn’t do that. Okay. They listen to Fox News, Fox delivers it, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. And then they get they’re talking points from that.

Farron Cousins: And Fox has on the committee members from the committee saying, we’re gonna get ’em. So that’s how effective they are. Democrats aren’t doing that.

Mike Papantonio: Oh, the Democrats. Okay. So there’s that story. The DuPont story is just coming up. I gotta promise you watch this story. This is where we’ve talked about where did he get all the money to buy the mansions and three houses, that kinda stuff. Well, how did he get the DuPont mansion? How did he buy it? His combined income, both he and his wife during that period was about $350,000. This thing is a multimillion dollar home. And so that story is emerging right now. So it’s these little paper cuts add to that, that whatever he’s projecting ain’t working. And you see what real Democratic leadership is concerned about. Now, it may not be the ostriches that are concerned about it, but real Democratic leadership is worried about it.

Farron Cousins: Right. And he looks old, right? He looks a little feeble. He doesn’t speak as quickly as he used to, and he doesn’t speak as loud as he used to. So what he needs to do to cover for that is surround himself by strong, energetic people.

Mike Papantonio: Of course.

Farron Cousins:: Who sell the message. So voters say, okay, he may have lost a step, but look at these people around him. They know what they’re talking about, and I trust them.

Mike Papantonio: You know where the 21 to 39 people are going to?

Farron Cousins: I do.

Mike Papantonio: Bobby Kennedy.

Farron Cousins:: They are.

Mike Papantonio: Right. He’s losing them by the droves. I mean, the other day they had this film where he’s some award and he’s doing his robot walk, and he literally doesn’t know where he is. So he’s turning around. He walks the other way, then he walks the other way again. And they have to tell him where to go. Those are the paper cuts that everybody wants to ignore. You know? Can he beat Trump? Yeah, he can. I mean, how can you not beat a criminal? How does that happen? Could happen here.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.