Some of the biggest pharmacies in America are facing lawsuits over the placement of non-FDA approved homeopathic medicines. Then, the CIA has launched a new podcast to help spread propaganda about the agency. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.


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Mike Papantonio:             Some of the biggest pharmacies in America are facing lawsuits over the placement of non FDA approved homeopathic medicines. Okay. Why, why don’t you pick this up. It’s, it’s, um, you know, there was a whole push maybe 15 years ago, homeopath is going to replace, is gonna replace chemical medicine. Right?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             Explain homeopath a little bit so people can understand what we’re talking about.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, we’re talking about things obviously that are not approved by the FDA. Not necessarily, you know, vitamins and supplements of that nature. But we’re talking about the things that are, you know, boost your brain health, those kinds of things. You know, take this for your, for your asthma. It’s all natural. It’s gonna make you feel better without having to, you know, use these dangerous pharmaceuticals. And of course that does appeal to people because you of all people know how dangerous pharmaceuticals can be, and the public is aware of that too. And plus they don’t wanna pay the big prices. The problem is, it is the Wild West out there with this homeopathic medicine. There, there’s virtually no regulations. We do have instances where one of these supplements that was sold by Walmart, CVS, all these places was killing infants.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Killing infants because it had deadly nightshade in it. So these are a very real problem and this.

Mike Papantonio:             There’s nobody looking over their shoulders.

Farron Cousins:                  Right.

Mike Papantonio:             Nobody, I mean, you know, you put it out there, you know, this is good for your brain. Well, okay, you take a year’s worth and it destroys your kidneys or your liver or, or causes some type of heart defect. Everybody’s asleep on it. So CVS says, this is what the public wants. So we’re gonna put it up next to a medicine that suggests that this homeopathic drug, this homeopathic thing, has the same efficacy and safety as this chemical produced pharmaceutical.

Farron Cousins:                  Right.

Mike Papantonio:             And as much as, you know how much I hate the pharmaceutical industry.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             There’s very few people that you will meet that have such disdain for the pharmaceutical industry. They at least are under some protection from the standpoint of somebody’s kind of looking over their shoulder, the FDA, sometimes.

Farron Cousins:                  A little bit. Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             A little bit. Homeopathic, none at all.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. And, and it is all about the display. That’s what these companies are facing the lawsuits over saying, you put it right there, you know, this homeopath headache remedy right next to the ibuprofen. You put all these things next to the digestive health medicine that have no guarantees. And we know, you know, you’ve seen documents about the placement of these products. We saw it with JUUL. We saw it with talc.

Mike Papantonio:             Yes, yes, yes.

Farron Cousins:                  The placement of these products in these very stores.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s part of the marketing.

Farron Cousins:                  It is.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s, it’s what, and so they know they can sell more homeopathic because it’s cheaper. And they know that they’re not gonna be held responsible if somebody does die. They didn’t manufacture the product. But the way that they’re marketing, they’re very aware of what they’re doing here.

Mike Papantonio:             The CIA has launched a new podcast to help spread prop, propaganda about their agency. This is, this is the CIA’s effort to whitewash the idea that, yeah, we, we did kill Allende. Yeah, we did, we did kill Diem. We’ve, we’ve, we’ve carried out all these assassinations. We’ve put coups in place all over the world. And oh, by the way, now we’re messing with American politics. Now that, that one, that one gets real close to home. Whether, you know what I’ve, I think Trump was, honest to God, he was just a horrible, horrible person and politician. And I have worked everything I can do to, to, to, to, to defeat him in that effort. But I’ve also been conscious when the CIA gets involved in presidential politics in the United States, that’s very dangerous. And like him or hate him, I swear to you, they’re, they’re involved. They’ve been involved in this presidential process for several years now.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. And, and, and this new move, I mean, starting a podcast, this is absolute insanity because it is, you know, we know from the first episode that’s come out, it’s pure propaganda. They want to go out there and, you know, dispel some of the myths about the agency by having members of the agency tell us how great they are. They’re gonna go out there because they already have, they’re gonna tell us, oh, we’re killing these people in drone strikes. But they’re not gonna mention, oh, by the way, we also just murdered a hundred, 200, 500 civilians with the same drone strike because oops, we missed the first time. Which actually is what Kevin Gosztola pointed out from, because he’s done such a good, good job of covering things like this. But this is 100% propaganda from the United States government to whitewash a horrible agency with a despicable history.

Mike Papantonio:             Whitewash 75 years of spook conduct that when you start taking a look at it, it should scare the hell out of every American citizen because it’s not just about taking care of, you know, it’s not just about taking care of us. A lot of ways it’s, it, there’s hustling us involved, there’s covering up that’s involved. And I gotta tell you something, I, the, the CIA, the CIA has had a free, they’ve had a free ride.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             For too long. Every now and then a politician will come along like Frank Church and say, I want, I want you to open your books a little bit. We need to start seeing what you’ve been up to. And I think, I think we’re almost approaching that time right now

Farron Cousins:                  Well, and a lot of people need to understand too, it’s not just what the CIA has done overseas. It’s what they’ve done here on American soil for 75 years. I mean, hell, they, they had files on Elvis. They thought, oh, well, his gyrations, I mean, literally one of their files said, well, his gyrations are corrupting a nation.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So this.

Mike Papantonio:             Or Martin Luther King.

Farron Cousins:                  Exactly.

Mike Papantonio:             Or any civil rights movement or any, any cults.

Farron Cousins:                  Environmental activists.

Mike Papantonio:             Oh God. You know, talking about targeting environment. Well, now, now again, I don’t take a stand on this pro-abortion or this is not a stand. But now you’ve got them going after pro-lifers in a way that I understand there’s gotta be some way to contain really crazy conduct, but it’s gotta be on both sides. You don’t just say, well, we’re gonna target these folks because it’s politically correct for us to target these folks. I, I don’t know, man. I, I just think that once the public starts really understanding, Howard Zinn was of course the greatest writer, Chalmers Johnson, Matthew Mintz, you know, those folks were great writers and they told the story about what was going on with organizations like. I don’t know who’s writing about anymore. Maybe Matt Taibbi. Who, who, who would you, who would you say is up there really following this kind of thing? I, I’d say Matt Taibbi for sure.

Farron Cousins:                  I, I think definitely Kevin Gosztola who is mentioned in this article.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  In fact, we’ve had him, you know, on Ring of Fire multiple times.

Mike Papantonio:             Yes. Yeah, he’s brilliant. He’s absolutely brilliant.

Farron Cousins:                  And he’s very young and very smart. And so he’s been doing a heck of a lot of good stuff on this too.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. Well, we, we need them in there because there are no more Howard Zinns. There are no more Chalmers Johnsons or Matthew Mintz or these people. And if nobody’s looking at ’em, that’s real dangerous.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.