Following the recent sentencing of actor and Scientologist Danny Masterson, more allegations of sexual assault cover up have emerged from people who have escaped Scientology. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.


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Mike Papantonio: Following the recent sentencing of actor and Scientologist, Danny Masterson, more allegations of sexual assault and coverup have emerged from no other than the Scientologists. You follow this story, we probably have done more stories on this cult, this insane, crazy cult than most people in this business. We followed them, early on in my career, I was faced with having to deal with a client, with one of these, held hostage, basically. But they found out in the trial that you had Scientologists that were assigned to stalk, to stalk witnesses, to harass witnesses, to make, to victimize witnesses, to do the same thing with the victims. The women who were raped by this nut case. Pick it up.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. They actually, they put the two women who alleged the rape. Well, I mean, the rape was determined at trial, yes. So they put the two women who were raped in therapy with their Scientologist therapist to convince the women it was their fault. That is how devious and just, in my opinion, straight up evil, this organization is. They wanted these women to drop the charges. They wanted these women to think that everything was their fault and that they had actually wanted it so Masterson could walk free because, I guess, I don’t even think he was popular at the time these allegations happened, anymore.

Mike Papantonio: Most people don’t even know who the hell he is. I mean, truthfully.

Farron Cousins: But now even more stories are coming out from the church, other women, some who have successfully left it because they will fight tooth and nail to prevent you from leaving, who are saying, listen.

Mike Papantonio: Well, basically. Go ahead. I’m sorry.

Farron Cousins: Well, they say, listen, I told the church that I was sexually assaulted by this individual. They covered it up. And like you said, they would have cars following ’em. They would have people standing outside their apartments watching them, watching their every move. It is a nightmare for women inside this organization.

Mike Papantonio: Well, first of all, let’s talk about how crazy these people are. They’re nuts. This is a cult. It’s built on a nutcase, L. Ron Hubbard, who was crazy as a march hare. Matter of fact, he was so crazy that he had committed fraud all over the world, basically. He had to live on a ship. Did you know that? He had to live on a ship so he couldn’t be served papers. And so their belief is that earth was colonized by extraterrestrials and that some of them are still with us, and their influence is still with us. That they’re still having, their energy and their power are still affecting us. We may not see ’em, they may not be able to point ’em out, but it’s almost like, yes, they’re here and you just have to believe that they’re here. So the reckoning came when, in the second trial, when you had specialists, experts take the stand and explain to the jury just how freaking crazy these people are. And that made a difference. Because these women were saying, you don’t understand what I’ve been through. I’ve been through, I may as well be held hostage. They’ve tried to brainwash me. They’ve threatened me. They’ve threatened my family. They’ve told me if I don’t cooperate, I’m going to be excommunicated and I’ll never see my family again. I just don’t, what are there 40,000 of them left right now?

Farron Cousins: Yeah. I think so. And you keep using that word cult. You actually have countries in Europe and Asia that have officially put that title on them. So, this is not just our opinion of this. This is what other governments, they’ve stripped them of tax exempt statuses. They said, this is not a religion. So the United States needs to do the same thing. These people are in trouble. You know, we did the story a couple months ago about the children, the children that are effectively being abused every day with this organization. It needs to be put to an end, because this is a dangerous group.

Mike Papantonio: Recap the children.

Farron Cousins: A lot of ’em are being held kind of on the boats because they have multiple boats. They essentially make them work as slaves. They go out there, and we’re talking about children 10 years old, some of even younger, doing the work that you would see a 30 year old man doing. You’re out there, you’re scrubbing.

Mike Papantonio: Slaves?

Farron Cousins: Yeah. You’re scrubbing the barnacles off the hull. You’re doing things that you don’t even know how to do these. You’re working with heavy machinery.

Mike Papantonio: They call it tough love.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. If you do not comply, they’ll send you to a different work camp. And there are allegedly beatings and things of that nature. There’s neglect, there’s withholding of love. It’s horrific.

Mike Papantonio: So, if you, so the cult, the crazy folks say that the extraterrestrials came here 75 million years ago, and that they’re still, they’re impacting how we live. They have something called an engram. You ever heard the term engram?

Farron Cousins: I haven’t.

Mike Papantonio: An engram is when something’s happened in your life. You’ve done something awful, you’ve been a victim. And so if you pay money to the Church of Scientology, they’ll help you work through that engram. And each time you have this thing called the engram, pay more money and they’ll help you work through it. This thing needs to be shut down. You realize in the United States they don’t pay taxes. Tax exempt. UK said, hell no. Most of the European, most countries in Europe are saying, hell no. It doesn’t take a genius to look at this and say, these people are crazy as hell.

Farron Cousins: Well, you even got Vladimir Putin as crazy as he is and he’s like, hey, these people are nuts.

Mike Papantonio: They’re crazier than me. Yeah. Vlad says, hey, they’re crazier than me. We’re not gonna even allow ’em here. Wow.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.