America’s Lawyer E40: Cyber criminals are targeting the campaign funds of politicians, and experts believe this problem is only going to get worse. We’ll explain what’s happening. Politicians in Iowa want to expand child labor – putting young children back into jobs that had been declared too dangerous decades ago. And Congressman George Santos is embroiled in ANOTHER scandal – this time allegedly stealing puppies from an Amish dog breeding group. All that, and more is coming up, so don’t go anywhere – America’s Lawyer starts right now.


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Mike Papantonio: Hi, I’m Mike Papantonio and this is America’s Lawyer. Cyber criminals are targeting the campaign funds of politicians, and the experts believe this problem is only gonna get worse. We’ll talk about it. Politicians in Iowa, well, they wanna expand child labor, putting young children back into jobs that have been declared too dangerous for decades. And Congressman George Santos, well, he’s embroiled in another scandal. This time, stealing puppies from an Amish dog breeding group. Could not make that one up. All that and more, it’s coming up. Don’t go anywhere. America’s Lawyer starts right now.

Politicians are experiencing an increase in theft from their campaign funds with cyber criminals targeting these massive campaign accounts. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins joins me to talk about it. Lot of money sitting there, huh? I mean, these big massive campaign accounts, it’s just kind of a new target. I mean, I expect, I expect this to get a lot worse.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. And that’s what the cybersecurity experts are telling us right now, because we have already seen a huge uptick in the amount of, or the number of politicians, I should say, that are reporting to the FEC, Hey, I don’t have receipts for these expenses because my account got hacked. Or they stole our checks. And it’s been increasing pretty much every single year for about a decade now. And the reason for that, I mean, it almost ties directly in with Citizens United, with McCutcheon.

Mike Papantonio: No question.

Farron Cousins: Because we have these huge super PACs that are, are literally some of them sitting on tens of millions of dollars. And the way it’s structured is you don’t have somebody sitting there every day watching expenses to know, wait a minute, this is a fraudulent $500 payment. This thousand dollars shouldn’t have gone here. And these cyber criminals have finally realized, this is the Wild West. Nobody’s looking over our shoulders. We can take what we want.

Mike Papantonio: It’s called blind stupid money. I mean, that’s what it is. It’s called blind. There’s so much money there, nobody’s really keeping up with it. In this story, they talk about, they talk about Matt Gaetz’s program, the National Association for Manufacturers. You remember the whole things with Black Life Matters, all that money disappeared because it’s impossible to keep up with it, I guess, or there’s no system to keep up with it. It’s kinda like that whole GoFundMe thing, which serves a really good purpose. It does a lot of good. But when you’re talking about money at this scale where you got people writing checks for a hundred thousand dollars and it’s just like fun money.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: Right?

Farron Cousins: Well, yeah. And another part of it too is just the amount of money that comes in on a daily basis. You know, I mean, if we were talking about accounts where they had a set amount of money and they knew for six months, nothing more comes in. So we know where our balance is at.

Mike Papantonio: Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins: Typically, you know, think of the average person’s bank account. You know how much money you have sitting in your checking account, you know how much comes in and how much goes out. With these accounts, we’re talking about transactions of thousands of dollars every single day of the week, whether it’s money coming in, or money going out, plane tickets, electronics, liquor stores. And those are all things that cyber criminals will steal your money and buy so it doesn’t raise suspicion. And they figured it out.

Mike Papantonio: Well, one thing. Yeah. One thing they’re doing is they’re copying, they’re forging checks.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: They’re doing prints of checks. They’ll take a legitimate check, run it through a machine, it looks exactly like the check. And so they’re forging these images. That’s, that’s one of the real popular ones because these checks, you know, checkbooks are laying around. It’s just the disorganization is almost overwhelming.

Union busting is big, big business in the United States, and there’s a massive $340 million industry fighting against workers’ rights. This $340 million that they came up with is probably so understated because they, they can only follow so much about how, how all this takes place. But this fund of money, it’s, what I find is interesting about this story, Farron, is they finally figured out that the union busting business, they’re using the same old tactics, intimidation, firing, closing stores, personal attacks. But now they, they’ve come up with this, they call it the new language of union busting. They’ve hired these law firms, Jones Day, for example. You know, go, first of all, go read the book about Jones Day. It’s an awful, awful law firm. But they, they represent corporate America. You know, if there’s something ugly to be done, bring in Jones Day. Jones Day are the people that are kind of, they head this kind of thing up. But talk about that new language, the new way that we’re going to talk about union busting.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. It’s, you know, we’re a family. They’re trying to invoke, and Starbucks is one of the worst with this because Starbucks likes to pretend, we’re this big progressive group. We love diversity, we love, you know, different people. So how could you say that we are treating you unfairly? We’re family. We’re brothers and sisters here. We love you and we take care of you. We’re doing so many good things. So it’s that almost guilting you into thinking, well, I can’t, I can’t go against my, my family here. And so they’re psychologically manipulating these people. And they do, they hire these psychologists.

Mike Papantonio: Yes.

Farron Cousins: To help them craft the language and learn how to manipulate these people. It’s truly disturbing.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah. One thing that you’re, you’re going at these, all these folks that are new immigrants from Guatemala and Mexico, you’re putting their lives in danger because they’re coming here to the United States to get a job. And you doing this, you’re interfering with that, that new worker that’s a part of the new workforce, you’re interfering with their ability to send that money. It’s stuff like that and it’s coming out of people. I mean, you know what the embarrassing thing about this, the American Bar Association.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: You know, of course I’m not a member. I don’t, I don’t have any allegiance to it. There’s, people don’t understand in the, in the lawyering business, there’s the American Bar Association that is represented, they represent corporate America. All the silk stocking, you know, the, the Jones Day types. The, the big silk stocking law firms. And then on the other side, you have a group, the trial lawyers. It’s a, it’s an organization not, almost separate and apart, because it’s almost like, that polarization of the two. But the American Bar Association is really big into this, aren’t they?

Farron Cousins: Yeah, they are. They, they’ve actually teamed up with the US Chamber of Commerce. And their whole big thing is trying to undo, like one of the few good things Obama did, he put in new rules to kind of strengthen the National Labor Relations Board.

Mike Papantonio: Right.

Farron Cousins: With overtime pay and things like that. So that a bar association along with the Chamber of Commerce have joined their evil forces together to fight all of these things. They’re spending huge money on lobbying, you know, reaching out to these law firms that are already a part of the ABA and trying to get it all undone, just so corporations can squeeze more out of the workforce.

Mike Papantonio: And the American Bar Association has more folks that are heading up that effort. It’s embarrassing to me. I mean, you know, I have no kinship with the American Bar Association at all. So the, the point is this, it’s that language that’s so nauseating to me. We’re a big family. You know, let’s, let’s not, let’s be, let’s be kind to each other. Just if you do this, how about Joe who works, you know, he’s working nights. He’s trying to go to college. You’re gonna ruin his life. They have figured out, because as you say, they focused it.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: And they’ve focused and focused and say, how can we make these people feel guilty? Let’s go ahead and borrow woke language. Okay. That’s what, let’s borrow woke language and let’s use it against these folks. And Amazon, you know, they’re masters of it. Starbucks is masters of it. And it’s amazing to me that all the corporations now, that’s the route that they’re going.

Farron Cousins: And the consultants, the lobbyists, the lawyers and the psychologists, they hold seminars.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: For these corporations to attend, to learn how to do this. It is, it is an industry in and of itself, and nobody even really knows it’s being, it’s being operated.

Mike Papantonio: Love speak. How, learn how to do love speak to destroy a union. The, the awful people who are trying to put together a union, love speak, let’s be kind to each other.

Staffers at NBC and MSNBC walked off the job last week to protest the networks massive layoffs of employees. Okay. Now here’s the problem I got with it, they laid off seven people. Okay. They laid off seven people. But they’re out there on the street, oh my God, they’ve laid off. Here’s, you know what I got real problems with? These people that are out there on the street protest, this, you know, protesting the seven people who lost their jobs. You try to get MSNBC or NBC to cover exactly what we just talked about, to cover what the, what the Amazon folks are having to go through, what Starbucks folks are, what the Walmart folks are having to go to. It’s not, they won’t cover it. You see, it’s not important.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: Because it’s not them. And because, and oh, by the way, Walmart’s the big advertiser. Starbucks is the big advertiser. You know, Amazon’s the big advertiser, so they don’t do those stories. But when they lose seven people, seven, seven employees. Oh my God. You’d think, you’d think that Democracy is at an end.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. Well, you know, NBC and MSNBC here really did do some underhanded stuff. Granted, it is a small number, but there’s also possibly projected more coming because we’re seeing it across the board. I mean, CNN is, they’re almost dead as it is. Big tech is laying off thousands of people.

Mike Papantonio: MSNBC’s heading the same same way.

Farron Cousins: And so what they told these employees was, well, we didn’t have to let the labor union know we were gonna start the layoffs because we decided that we’re gonna take the business in a, a new direction. It’s a new business strategy. So by reclassifying it as a strategy rather than a downsizing, they said, well, we don’t have to tell you. We don’t have to give you the benefits. We don’t have to give you, you know, six weeks pay, or 90 days, however much it was that we had agreed to. So they really did screw these people over. And again, this is coming from the network that bills itself as we’re, we’re the left wing folks. You know, we are the, on the side of the labor unions and they’re doing, and we, because we’ve talked about MSNBC strikes for years and the labor union busting happening there.

Mike Papantonio: Farron, how often have you seen that network spend a minute talking about these lives that are affected by union busting that’s going on everywhere across this country right now? That it’s at an all time high, the effect of union busting. It’s, it’s been, it’s been re-energized. You check out and see how many times MSNBC has done a story on that. How about never. You know, if you may.

Farron Cousins:Oh, well, not since, not since Ed Schultz left the network.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah. Ed Schultz. That’s right. He and I.

Farron Cousins: That was his big thing.

Mike Papantonio: He and I, you know, I loved Ed Schultz. We used to have a show and he’d have me on three days a week sometimes talking about this very thing. And they ran him off because he was, you know, he was, he was speaking up where he wasn’t supposed to speak up. He was saying, well, why aren’t we doing more stories like that? Why are we catering to all of our advertisers to where we can’t do meaningful stories? And so, I don’t know. I look at this, I don’t really care. I know you do, you do. I don’t really care. I think there’s some poetic justice here. And if seven people lost their jobs, they’ve got bigger issues they oughta be thinking about than those seven people. I hope they get their jobs back. I hope they work it out. But you know what, it’s hard for me to, to feel sorry for MSNBC and, and NBC.

The six year old boy who shot his teacher earlier this year, apparently had a history of aggression towards teachers that school administrators totally ignored. This is a little psycho man. This, this little kid needs to be not in school. You know, this story, he tried to choke, he tried to strangle another teacher the year before.

Farron Cousins: When he was five.

Mike Papantonio: When he was five years old, tried to strangle another teacher. And this, the people in charge, what was her name? Parker. Yeah. Ebony Parker said, ah, we, we gotta work around it. Didn’t his parents used to have to come to school with him or something like that?

Farron Cousins: Yeah. And, and it was, I mean, this is just truly a disturbing story because those warning signs were there for a year. All of the other teachers had expressed concerns. The students had expressed concerns, and the parents go in and argue, well, you know, the, well it was the administrators of the school said, well, we’ve gotta protect all parties.

Mike Papantonio: Oh God almighty.

Farron Cousins: Including this, you know, five year old. And you want, you almost want to feel sympathy for him. But then you look at this and you say, something’s not right here. This, this is a kid that just, maybe is just evil. I don’t know. But this is horrible.

Mike Papantonio: Well, I mean, don’t you put ’em in an institution? I mean, don’t you at least try the institution route? This is a kid tried to strangle a teacher till the teacher almost passed out.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: The year before. He was five years old. Now, the day that the shooting took place, he was chasing other kids around the playground with his belt trying to whip them in the head. Okay. And this Ebony Parker, this genius says, oh, well, we just have to give everybody the opportunity to go to school. Really? How about the other parents? How about the other kids? They have, they have the stake in this too. Right?

Farron Cousins: Well, how about the three teachers on the day of the shooting before the shooting happened that told administrators, this kid has a gun. And so what happened was the, after the second teacher told administrators, we’ve heard reports, he’s got a gun. They searched his backpack. But then one teacher said, well, I saw him before you searched it. He took something out and put it in his pocket, but they didn’t bother to check his pockets. And so they looked.

Mike Papantonio: He’s six years old.

Farron Cousins: They looked, they looked in the backpack and said, well, there’s no gun. And then a third teacher said, he has the gun in his pocket. Nobody looked in the pocket. Later, I mean, that school, everybody there should be fired.

Mike Papantonio: Oh.

Farron Cousins: But they’re gonna be sued, I hope, to hell and back.

Mike Papantonio: Oh my God. If Ebony Parker is still on the job right now, buddy, I’m telling you, this.

Farron Cousins: I’m pulling my kids out, if they were.

Mike Papantonio: Well, not only that, the lawsuit just gets better, not firing this woman and everybody that was involved, the lawsuit just gets better. There’s gonna be a lawsuit. Hadn’t happened yet, but there’s gonna be a lawsuit and I just don’t get it. Yeah. Do we want a kid to be able to, but not if he’s got those kind of psychological problems. If the parents come in there and say, oh, well my child needs a public education. Well, put him somewhere where there is better institutionalization, I guess is the best way to put it. There’s something really wrong here, man.

Farron Cousins: There, there are public school programs that do deal with, you know, more problematic children. They deal with the extreme aggression behaviors. I know, my wife does it. Not that I want that there, but.

Mike Papantonio: Have you ever heard of anything like that around your, with your wife?

Farron Cousins: No. I, I mean, in any school that, you know, she’s worked in, any school I’ve been to, if a kid choked a teacher that would be that kid’s last day at that school.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah. I can tell you, the lawyer that’s gonna handle this lawsuit is hoping that they don’t fire Ebony Parker and her staff. Because if they don’t, and she’s still in place when this lawsuit takes place, whoa be that, you know, that, that there’s gonna be some bad stuff happening.

Politicians in Iowa are actually trying to loosen child labor laws. We might head, be headed back to the days of children working in mines. Okay. You know what this is about, right? This is about, we have this influx of immigrant workers coming into this country. It’s the Koch brothers, it’s US Chamber of Commerce, it’s associated industries. It’s, well, the, you know, it’s all of these groups that want these workers coming into the United States to work for no money. Cheap labor. And you know what? If you kill ’em on the job, it’s okay. Ship ’em back to Nicaragua, Guatemala. If they lose an arm, ship ’em back to Mexico. Here we’re talking about kids. We want kids working in jobs like mines. Right?

Farron Cousins: Yeah. And this is, this is just beyond disturbing. In fact, the ACLU said it, it is just crazy. They said, this is crazy. But you’re absolutely right. And I love the fact that you and I didn’t talk about this story before we came on, and we both land at the same spot. This is, it all has to do with immigration and sure we’ve got the big crackdown because you gotta send them back. You can’t keep ’em here. So the corporations are looking at this, well, if we can’t have cheap labor from south of the border, we’ve got cheap labor, labor sitting over here in the high schools. You know, these kids don’t know any better. We can put them back to work like those old pictures of the kids walking out of the mines. That is what they want. Because yeah, kids would be allowed to go back and be miners again under this new law. They’d work in animal slaughterhouses.

Mike Papantonio: Right.

Farron Cousins: Under this law. Jobs that back in the, I mean, a hundred years ago, we finally said, this is dangerous for kids.

Mike Papantonio: It’s worse than that. It’s worse than that. Okay. They lay out, we’re gonna allow kids to work in freezers, in meat coolers, in slaughterhouses. We’re gonna allow ’em to work in the logging industry. Some limited in the mining industry. But it’s crazier than that. We’re gonna let ’em work in demolition. We’re gonna let ’em work around circular saws, punching machines, all kinds of dangerous machinery. Why? The heart of it is this. You got the media, their only story is, oh my gosh, we, you know, we gotta let these immigrants in. You gotta let ’em in. Biden says, you gotta let ’em in. It’s the humane thing to do. It has nothing to do with humanity. It has everything to do with the US Chamber of Commerce and associated industries saying, we got a new workforce. And you know what? They’ll work for $3 an hour. And you know what? If they get hurt, it ain’t a big deal. That’s what this is about. You tell me, when’s the last time you saw corporate media do a story on that?

Farron Cousins: Oh, never.

Mike Papantonio: No, they don’t do stories. It’s, it’s either they’re too stupid, they’re too stupid to understand how this connects up, or they don’t want to offend their advertisers. It’s the same story, isn’t it?

Farron Cousins: Well, their advertisers are the ones who want to hire these children. I mean.

Mike Papantonio: Of course.

Farron Cousins: You’re gonna have kids sitting in high school next to somebody who suddenly doesn’t have an arm on Tuesday.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: Because they’re after school job in the logging industry, they got it hacked off. But I mean, that, but that’s what they want. Because with these kids, you can also pay them below minimum wage because they’re not full-time workers. There’s all kinds of loopholes that allow you to screw over this workforce. And so if they say, okay, if we can’t get it from Mexico, we’re gonna go get it from the high school.

Mike Papantonio: What are we hearing from corporate America? American workers are lazy. They don’t wanna work anymore. They wanna sit home and just collect checks and drink and smoke dope. That’s the message.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. That’s what they’re saying.

Mike Papantonio: Coming from the US Chamber of Commerce and associated industry and all of the people that wanna bring these kids in to do these jobs for, they wanna bring the whole family.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: You know, they want the family to work picking oranges and strawberries for nothing. And then, oh, by the way, let’s let the kids work too. This is a sick, sick story, but it’s happening. And it’s not just happening in one state.

Farron Cousins: Right. There’s, there’s this nationwide push. We’re starting to see more and more of this across the country.

Mike Papantonio: Oh yeah.

Lobbyists have found a new way to outsmart politicians and get them to attend their new lobbyists corporate events. Okay. Farron, why don’t you lay this one out.

Farron Cousins: What’s happening here is that, well, I think the best way to put it as the, as the Intercept, Intercept said, they’re exploiting the appetite for virtue signaling, is what these lobbyists are doing. So they put together these events and they say, hey, Democratic lawmakers, we’ve got this diversity gala tonight. We would love for you to come because we’re celebrating how, you know, the new diversity of the new Congress.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: You know, we want your, your black lawmakers, your Latino lawmakers, we want you all to come in and be part of this inclusion. And then as soon as they say, well of course I have to go to to this, I have to be seen going to the diversity event.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: And basically then you’re locked in a room with lobbyists for four or five hours and they’re pitching you on. I mean, we got the list of the companies here. JP Morgan, MasterCard, Exxon, Apple, Airbnb, Toyota ,Reynolds, which is tobacco.

Mike Papantonio: Target, Walgreens, Amgen, Google,

Farron Cousins: All of the big pharma, big business, all of ’em.

Mike Papantonio: Okay. But again, it’s the same thing we talked about in the other story. Right? The new love speak. The love speak for woke America. The love speak is like we talked about in the union case, you know, don’t fire, you know, don’t, don’t start a union. You’re gonna put poor Joe out of a job here. He’s going to school. He needs the money. We’re all one big family. Can’t we just, can’t we just embrace and have a kumbaya moment. This is the same thing. Okay. While they have the, while they have the LGBT groups, while they have the Black Woman’s Caucus there, while they have these diverse folks there that are all doing their job in their world, and it’s important work, we have these folks that are price fixing. They’re price gouging. Their anti-labor action underway. Their consumer espionage underway. They have consumer fraud. Almost every week you hear another one about one of these banks that’s ripping people off. These are the people that are coming in with this new love agenda. We’re all one big happy family and all of this, this message that we are just like you. They’re nothing like these people in the room. And the sad part is, it works. The sad part is those people go out of the room and when that lobbyist that served them a martini or, you know, shrimp cocktail has to meet with ’em about something that’s gonna take people’s rights away. They say, oh yeah, yeah. Remember our party?

Farron Cousins: Yeah. And that’s what’s so disgusting about this. But it shows like, look, these, these lobbyists have found a way to outsmart the politicians because you basically, you do, you make ’em the offer they can’t refuse. Like, are you really gonna not show up to a diversity event? You know how bad that’s gonna look with your constituents? They don’t want to see you snubbing all of these diverse people. So they’ve got ’em between a rock and a hard place. They know that they’re not gonna look beyond what that invitation says. Like, well, who, well, who is Ferox Strategy putting this on? They’re not gonna look at that. They’re gonna show up, you know, get their picture taken. You know, be out in social media. But it’s really just a way for the lobbyists to get ’em in a corner and say, listen, my drug company here, we’re, we’re just getting hammered. We need all this, you know, benefits from you. I need a favor. That’s what it is.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah. They’ll bring in, the other thing is to bring in the celebrity voices, right?

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: Like, like, we really need to listen to celebrity. Did you see the story, Chelsea handler’s sister, honest to God said Chelsea Handler until she until, she was 27 years old, believed that the moon was the same thing as the sun? Did not know that there were two separate and distinct. I’m not making that up. Look it up. Google it. She believed it was the same. So that’s the celebrity voice that’s supposed to lead these people into good decision making. Scares the hell outta me.

Congressman George Santos is in even more trouble after reports surfaced about him, him stealing puppies from an Amish dog breeder. Okay. Why don’t you pick this up. Gimme a second. Okay.

Farron Cousins: Um, look, this is, if you hired the best Hollywood screenwriter out there to script the George Santos story and only included things he’s done, you would look at story, you’d be like, no, no. Okay. This is too over the top. A real human doesn’t do this, especially not a member of Congress. But nope, we find out, was it 2017, I guess, George Santos goes to this Amish dog breeder, writes a check for $15,000, gets all these puppies. The check doesn’t clear, you know, there’s, because there’s no money in the account. And Santos reached out to a lawyer friend of his said, hey, listen, uh, my checks were stolen. I need you to go argue this because I’m being charged with theft of these puppies that I don’t, maybe he’s gonna make a coat out of ’em. Who knows, because he’s that dastardly. And she, you know, this lawyer friend goes to bat, gets it dismissed, gets it expunged. So we can’t even see the details. And now the lawyer friend has come out and said, no, the guy should be in prison. I probably shouldn’t have done that

Mike Papantonio: I mean, you know, she just got hustled. I mean, she’s just doing her job. She, you know, a friend says I got this problem. Can you help me? She does, she does a good job for him. Has the records expunged. Now she says, I should have never gotten involved. He should, he should have went to jail. That’s what she says. And I wish nothing but bad things happen for him. Okay. Now, part of this story here, I love this part too, the eviction story. Okay. So, so, okay. He’s being evicted and he’s supposed to have written a check to avoid the eviction. So he’s in court and they’re, you know, of course the land, landlord shows up and says, he should be evicted. He wrote me a bad check. Tells the judge, look, when I, when I was on my way, I was mugged and they stole my shoes. He’s, his shoes, he was robbed on, he was robbed on Fifth Avenue, and his shoes were stolen. And oh, by the way, never did have an explanation about the, about the check. The check bounced. And I guess he was ultimately evicted. Huh?

Farron Cousins: And he also, that wasn’t the only time he claimed to have been robbed, you know, in order to not pay bills. And it happened another time as well. So anytime this man got in trouble, he would just go tell authorities, ah, I got robbed.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: You know, oh, I didn’t write the bad check for the puppies. Somebody stole my, my checkbook. And here’s the thing. This was in, like I said, was it I think 2017, nobody in 2017, especially at his age, is walking around with a checkbook.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: I’ll tell you that right now.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah. Yeah.

Farron Cousins: Secondly, if it were stolen, he would’ve immediately been on the phone with his bank, would’ve resolved it in five minutes, and all those checks would’ve been canceled. There is no record of that and that is what the court should have looked at when the lawyer went in there and said, well, okay, wait a minute. Let’s check the bank account and see where he reported it.

Mike Papantonio: Okay. You tell me, you’re a Republican. I don’t care how die hard you are. What are you gonna do with this guy? You, you’re, if you have half a brain, you’re gonna get rid of him. He’s like a stink bomb went off in your party. But they don’t have enough sense to say, you know what, this might hurt us, but we can’t allow this to happen. I mean, the truth is, it, you don’t run away from this. The, the fact we’re doing this show right now, we’re doing this segment again on this nut case. Okay. This just, this is just, it just keeps giving and it keeps hurting the GOP and they don’t have enough sense to cut him loose.

Farron Cousins: Well, it’s like if you, if you have a cancerous tumor and you understand, listen, this tumor is gonna get worse and it’s going to impact my health in a horrible way, no question asked. That’s who he is.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: But the surgery’s gonna be painful.

Mike Papantonio: Right.

Farron Cousins: And it’s gonna take time outta my day. I just don’t know that I want to excise the tumor right now because I’m so busy, that’s what the Republicans are doing. So he’s just growing larger creating. I mean, there is a new story about this man every other day. I mean, he is the Forest Gump of crime at this point, just going across the world with all these unimaginable schemes that are just taking over.

Mike Papantonio: Well, I mean, quick review. Okay. He claims he was Jewish. He’s not Jewish. He claims, I mean, I.

Farron Cousins: The grandparents died in the Holocaust.

Mike Papantonio: Yes.

Farron Cousins: No, they didn’t. Mother died in 9/11. No, she didn’t, hadn’t been in the US for four years at that point.

Mike Papantonio: The stories just keep, just keep going on and the GOP just says, eh, maybe it’ll go away. This one ain’t gonna go away. Thanks for joining me, Farron. Okay.

Farron Cousins: Thank you.

Mike Papantonio: That’s all for this week. But all of these segments are gonna be available this coming week right here on this channel and you can follow us on Twitter @AmericasLawyer. I’m Mike Papantonio and this has been America’s Lawyer, where we tell you stories that corporate media won’t talk about because their advertisers don’t let ’em or their political connections are just so deep-rooted that those politics don’t allow them to tell the story. That’s not a problem for us, as you can see. We’ll see you next time.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.