New interview documents have been released showing how former President Bush repeatedly downplayed his failures surrounding 9/11. We’ll explain how his failures changed this country forever. President Biden had Congress step in to prevent a major rail strike – and rail workers are NOT happy about that. And BIG changes are coming for Both parties in Congress – we’ll tell you what to expect. All that, and more is coming up, so don’t go anywhere – America’s Lawyer starts right now.


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Mike Papantonio: Hi, I’m Mike Papantonio and this is America’s Lawyer. New interview documents have been released showing how former President Bush repeatedly downplayed and ignored his failures of 9/11. We’ll, explain what came out in that report. President Biden had Congress step in to prevent a major rail strike and the rail workers, well, they don’t have much to be happy about. And big changes are coming for both parties in Congress. We’ll tell you what to expect. All that and more. It’s all coming up. Don’t go anywhere. America’s Lawyer starts right now.

We’re finally getting more information about just how badly President Bush screwed up the warnings of 9/11, how he completely dropped the ball and caused the murder of 3000 Americans. But now we’re just ignoring it. I’ve got Farron Cousins with me to talk about it. How, how have we rehabilitated? This guy, the, the facts are overwhelming in this new report that he was an idiot. He was a complete buffoon. He ignored warning after warning. But now his, his approval rating is 74% because the media embraced him. When he was going after Trump, they said, ah, this is our new hero. They forgot about the fact that he killed what, a million people?

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: A million people along with the three, 3000 murders that took place on American soil. Pick it up.

Farron Cousins: Well, he, he’s become the, the lovable dufus. Not, not the grossly incompetent war criminal. He’s the lovable dufus. He wasn’t quite right, but hey, he was funny when he did his little dance that time. No, this man, especially now that these new documents have come out from the interview.

Mike Papantonio: Talk about those documents. This is, this is in your face documents.

Farron Cousins: It, it really is. The 9/11 commission, you know, worked out in April of 2004. We finally get to sit down with Bush and Dick Cheney, find out everything that happened in the run up to 9/11. And what they found out, what George W. Bush told them was, I didn’t, I didn’t know they were serious about these threats. I didn’t, I thought they were talking about he was gonna attack overseas. I, I didn’t know any of this. The CIA director was confusing me.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah, Tenet.

Farron Cousins: It’s absolutely absurd that this man continued to pass the buck.

Mike Papantonio: How confusing is this? Osama Bin Laden is coming to America to involve himself in terrorist activity. That wasn’t in Europe. Tenet, do you know met with him 40 times, 40 times. Even went to this idiot’s ranch where you remember him out there with this saw, sawing logs while America was falling apart. Went and met with this idiot 40 times and said, look, you need to understand this is real. They’re coming to America to bomb us or to complete, complete some type of terrorist activity. And what he said was, well, I didn’t think it was productive information. I didn’t have enough information. It’s almost like they needed to put a, a cross. Okay, here’s an X, you idiot. This is what they’re gonna blow up. You need to do something about it.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. It wasn’t clear where they were gonna be, what they were gonna do. So, so I just ignored it. Listen, we could have, at that time, through the federal government that he was running, instituted very minor changes to airport security.

Mike Papantonio: Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:That could have prevented this. I mean.

Mike Papantonio: They were recommending.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: They were recommending these changes.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. And these, again, super minor things that could have been done that likely could have prevented this massive tragedy on our soil. But this idiot didn’t understand it. And I think that’s the point. It’s not just that he downplayed it. He fundamentally couldn’t understand it.

Mike Papantonio: Do you remember they had, Ellen had him on the show. Oh, he’s a wonderful, funny little artist. Like, it’s okay, man, you only killed a million people. You only allowed 3000 Americans to be murdered on soil because you’re too lazy to do your job. All of a sudden he’s the darling of the Democrats. Why? Because he took the time to attack Bush, to, to attack Trump. Look, this is not me and you talking. This is not supposition. These are declassified documents that finally are declassified. Talk about how he, how he kept them secret. Yeah.

Farron Cousins: This, the whole 9/11 commission report, and George W. Bush, none of them wanted to point fingers at anyone. So that played a large role in keeping these documents secret. Obviously it was in an election year that Bush clearly should have lost. And if this had come out, he would have.

Mike Papantonio: He would have. Oh, he would’ve lost, there’s no question.

Farron Cousins: But, they said, let’s not point a finger at any individual. Let’s just, you know, we’ll release our committee report. We’re not gonna say Bush failed. We’re not gonna say this agency failed. But they did do a degree point out the agency failures, which in my opinion is what really ramped up this militarization.

Mike Papantonio: Right.

Farron Cousins: This increased military budget for the war contractors.

Mike Papantonio: Of course.

Farron Cousins: This 9/11 commission, by not placing the blame on him said, oh, it’s the agency failures.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: Let’s give them $800 billion to fix it.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: That, that’s, that’s one of the big take aways, for me.

Mike Papantonio: It was all about the money.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: It, it, the report, the FBI, the FBI conducted 70 independent investigations of Bin Laden and could not figure out that the guy was a crazy loose cannon that wanted to create terror in the United States. 70 investigations. Again, Tenet meets with this bumpkin 40 times and says, look, this is real. Put your saw down. Put, put your, put your saw down for a minute. Ignore your horses. Let’s not talk about golf for just a minute. And I, I don’t wanna hear about daddy’s accomplishments. Let’s talk, you and I talk. This is really happening. That’s how crazy this was. And Tenet was just so frustrated. He said, I don’t know what else to do. I just have no idea, what, I don’t know what else to do. Now, when he took over office the second, second term, I don’t wanna look further into this because it’s not productive to assign blame. That was his quote after he took office the second time. But beyond me, I, I swear it, I can’t even get my arms around it. How all of a sudden he is the new Democrat darling.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: Killed a million people, plus 3000 Americans murdered on soil because of his sheer incompetence. But that’s okay. Let’s put him on Ellen and hell, let’s put him on, you know, the, the, the talk shows during the day and talk about what a cute little bumpkin he is. Nothing cute about this story.

The corporate media is lying to you about legislation that could change how news is shared on social media. This is a big lie, isn’t it?

Farron Cousins: It is.

Mike Papantonio: Talk, talk, you’ve done a couple of stories on this. I love your take on it. Tell, tell us in your words, what is your take on how the media is again, hustling the American public?

Farron Cousins: Well, they, they’ve been pushing actually several different pieces of legislation. The big one, the official name of it, gotta find it, the Journalism Competition and Preservation Act.

Mike Papantonio: Right, right.

Farron Cousins: And we’ve talked about that plenty of times. But basically what it’s gonna do is allow these big news conglomerates who have already formed a consortium to go to the social media outlets and say, listen, you’re gonna share our stuff, but we’re gonna give you a good percentage of the profit. And that gives you more incentive to share our stuff instead of sharing independent media outlets who cannot afford what we can afford.

Mike Papantonio: They’re, they’re already doing it.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: Okay. When you watch this segment, then off to the side, and you look at the, what, what are the related segments? MSNBC, CNN, NBC, ABC, no independents. As a matter of fact, if we’re talking about a topic that has nothing to do with that little line of related stories, it doesn’t make any difference.

Farron Cousins: Right.

Mike Papantonio: It doesn’t, makes no difference. First of all, the media isn’t covering those kind of stories. Second of all, they don’t care. They’re gonna push MSNBC in front of the, right after you watch this, they’re gonna pop up MSNBC, they’re gonna pop up CNN. So it’s already happening. This makes it worse though, doesn’t it?

Farron Cousins: It, it really does. This gives social media companies an even greater financial incentive, not just on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter could also be affected, to push these stories. And it all comes back down to the money.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: The money is what’s driving this because these groups know whether it’s Sinclair Broadcasting, that’s a major player in the JCPA, whether it’s, you know, Gannett, all these other outlets, they banded together because they have the money to do it.

Mike Papantonio: Irony.

Farron Cousins: And nobody else can fight that.

Mike Papantonio: The irony is here, they’ve, they’ve destroyed corporate media. They’ve, they have completely destroyed corporate media. I mean, look, if you’re 20, 25, 30 years old, you don’t even watch news anymore. You go on social media. So they said, okay, we’ve destroyed television media. Let’s now move to social media and see if we can destroy that too. That’s kinda where it is. Farron, I didn’t quite understand. I read, did a quick, I did a quick read of the EARN IT Act. Did you, can you put that in terms of something simple to understand?

Farron Cousins: It’s a very complicated, complex thing where they’re trying to root out, you know, exploitive images of children.

Mike Papantonio: Right.

Farron Cousins: On the internet. But really what it is, is it’s allowing corporate media outlets to kind of have the reins on what can and cannot fly on social media.

Mike Papantonio: Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins: So if they can come out there and say, oh, well listen, hey, you got this story floating around, this looks a little bad from an independent outlet.

Mike Papantonio: Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins: They can effectively kill it and get it pulled off of these social media outlets. It’s putting the, the corporate media in the driver seat of basically, I don’t wanna call it censorship.

Mike Papantonio: It’s censorship.

Farron Cousins: Well, I guess it is censorship.

Mike Papantonio: It is censorship.

Farron Cousins: And so they get to be the driver’s of it.

Mike Papantonio: But they pick the issue. Say, oh, this is all about child pornography. No, it’s not.

Farron Cousins: Right.

Mike Papantonio: That’s the cover. And then after they get past the cover, then they really pull the trigger, which is, we’re not gonna let people say what we don’t want ’em to say, basically. Right?

Farron Cousins: Well, and it’s, you know, we run into that all the time because we’ve done a lot of videos on, on the human trafficking crisis.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah. Since I’m handling those cases all over the country. Right.

Farron Cousins: And now that I’ve mentioned that, there’s a good chance this video will get demonetized and shared less on YouTube because even mentioning it, the opioid crisis was another one.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: If you talk about that.

Mike Papantonio: That we.

Farron Cousins: They will punish you.

Mike Papantonio: That this law firm initiated, we started the opioid litigation right here in this law firm.

Farron Cousins: Exactly. Two major issues that we’re in the forefront on, and we can’t even talk about them.

Mike Papantonio: Our first three stories disappeared when we’re talking about McKesson and Cardinal and CVS and Walgreens and Walmart, and how they were murdering Americans and 150 Americans were dying a day. They made those stories disappear.

Farron Cousins: They did.

Mike Papantonio: Corporate media didn’t tell the story because all those people I just named, they’re advertisers.

Cities in Puerto Rico have filed a major racketeering lawsuit against fossil fuel companies for covering up the dangers of climate change. Well, there’s been several attempts to make this happen. Right? And none of them have been successful so far. I think it’s, it’s, you know, basically you’re batting zero, which is a shame because there’s some really, really good material. It’s worth it to read the lawsuit and understand how much these companies, Exxon, for example, that they absolutely knew 50 years ago what was coming. Right?

Farron Cousins: Yeah, absolutely. You know, the documents go back to definitely the seventies. There’s actually a couple from the fifties where they said, wait a minute now we think this is messing up. There’s newspaper reports from the 1910s, I think 1918, where, hey, the burning of coal seems to be changing the climate. So over a hundred years ago, even the media was still talking about climate change. But either way, the documents in these companies, you know, they’re all colluding together, basically. We’re gonna pool our money. We’re gonna fund this think tank. We’re gonna create a think tank here. And we’re gonna tell people that climate change is just the weather changing every day.

Mike Papantonio: Right.

Farron Cousins: And, and, and basically, cast doubt on the whole thing.

Mike Papantonio: Well, you saw the documents. Actually, I, I saw where you actually did show after show where this isn’t me talking.

Farron Cousins: Right.

Mike Papantonio: Let me show you the documents.

Farron Cousins: We’ve seen the documents.

Mike Papantonio: This is where they wrote that. This is how we take the scare out of climate change. Those were the documents.

Farron Cousins: Right. And, and paying off the scientists, which Exxon did.

Mike Papantonio: Key, what they call key opinion leaders. Talk about it.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. They would offer, and there’s even a database now where they can go and just find a list of who can sign their name on what. But they would offer scientists tens of thousands of dollars. They had the report already written saying, climate change is fake, oil is great. Just saying, hey scientists, you’re reputable. Put your signature on this. We’ll give you $25,000. And they did it.

Mike Papantonio: Harvard, Yale, Princeton, Duke, you name it. There was always some blood sucking bottom feeder scientist or doctor, or whatever, that was willing to say, yeah, I’ll sign off on that. They didn’t even write it most of the time. The industry, Exxon would write the, the article. They would say why climate change isn’t real. Doc, you mind, we’re gonna give you $50,000 to sign. No problem. They’d sign off on it.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. And so that’s why this particular lawsuit is different from some of those other ones, because this one’s going after the racketeering angle.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: So that could be something that maybe gives a little oomph. But at the end of the day, the liability for it, you just can’t hit that standard, unfortunately. You can’t prove that the gasoline I burned that I bought from Exxon.

Mike Papantonio: Causation connection.

Farron Cousins: So it’s just, we know it did, but linking it to the exact companies is near impossible.

Mike Papantonio: Well, there’s market share kinds of arguments. And once a court will go ahead and assume a market share kind of analysis, that is, we know for the last 20 years, Exxon, what your market share was. And we know that all of you had a specific market share. That’s always been the way I’ve approached multiple defendants. Early on this one, I’m calling, probably not gonna make it, but I love to see that these people are trying.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: President Biden stepped in to avert a massive rail strike. But workers, they got the really, really bad end of this deal. Is there any way to dress this up? I mean, for God’s sakes, Biden says, remember when he came in as the union guy and he’s going all over the country, I’m big on unions, blah blah.

Farron Cousins: And big on trains, he was the train guy.

Mike Papantonio: Big on trains. I love trains because I’ve care. Yeah. That was his line. I go back and forth on a train every day. I love trains. Tell ’em what he did to the train people.

Farron Cousins: Uh, we were looking down the barrel of a massive rail strike because the rail workers, when you look at how they’ve been treated, oh my God, it, it’s on par with Amazon, almost. These people were not allowed to take a day off. They weren’t guaranteed any sick days whatsoever. Benefits were garbage. Pay was garbage. They wanted better and they deserved better. Our economy depends on these people. $2 billion a day we were gonna lose as a country if this strike went forward. And so Biden goes to Congress and says, listen guys, we gotta avert this strike. But rather than doing anything, you know, passing legislation to help these workers, they basically give them nothing. All they do is they pass something that says you can’t go on strike. You have to accept the deal the rail companies put forward, which by the, this is so sick. The, the final one that.

Mike Papantonio: No pun, no pun intended.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. The final one that passed, they did, of course the House did pass that, oh we’ll give you seven day sick leave. But it was a separate piece that they knew would fail in the Senate, which is why they did it. This is the agreement that was passed, but the workers rejected. It does not include a single day of paid sick leave and would only allow three penalty free days off per year for medical visits. But even that time off is heavily constrained. It’s unpaid. Can only be taken on a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday. Must be scheduled at least 30 days in advance. So many hoops you have to jump through.

Mike Papantonio: I know I’m, I’m gonna be sick 30 days from now, so let me go ahead and put you on notice.

Farron Cousins: Well, I hope it’s on Tuesday, Wednesday, Thursday that you’re sick.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah. Because not Friday. Not Thursday or Friday.

Farron Cousins: It’s, it’s insane.

Mike Papantonio: Well, okay. So.

Farron Cousins: But they made them do it.

Mike Papantonio: Okay. Why? I mean, I mean, I, you know, I’m going to get all this Papantonio’s gone to the right again because I’m talking about their president. It, you know, again, I’m not Democrat. I’m not Republican. I’m sure not Republican. But you gotta talk about the fact this guy ran on the idea, I’m gonna, I’m the union guy. I’m gonna bring life back to the union. This ain’t life back to the union, brother.

Farron Cousins: No. These workers are absolutely sickened over what has happened with this deal. They had the collective bargaining power. They are an established union. They’re not trying to form one. They’ve got it. So they had the power. They had the power to grind the economy to a halt, which yeah, it would’ve hurt us, but that’s why they stepped in. We can’t take another hit to our economy. It’s already in the toilet.

Mike Papantonio: Record profits these railways are making, record, record profits. And they say to these people, well, we can’t get you a legitimate sick day. I mean, unless you do all this stuff that they know is never gonna happen. And they have to negotiate. They have to say, well, we can’t overreach because the Senate’s not gonna approve it. He could. He could go and say, this is important to what I ran on. This is who I’m supposed to be. Again, Farron, I think it comes down to, I can’t blame everything on him all the time. It’s the people that he’s surrounded himself with.

Nancy Pelosi’s successor has been announced, but it looks like just more the same for Democrats. God bless, I just thought we’d get a break here. Did we get one?

Farron Cousins: We did not. We got Representative Hakeem Jeffries, who is 30 years younger than Pelosi, so that, you know, he’s got that going for him. But other than that, he ticks off every single box of being nothing more than another corporate political hack. You know, he came from a corporate defense law firm. Something we always talk about with these people. They stay loyal to them. He’s the top recipient of hedge fund money in the House. All kinds of other corporations. He’s voted against, you know, things like the Green New Deal. He won’t sign onto it. Just a very run of the mill corporate right wing Democrat.

Mike Papantonio: Why do we get the best stories, this is, this is another, we’ve done two Common Dreams stories here today.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: That weren’t reported anywhere else. Common Dreams, Norman Solomon. Good, good, it gives, it, it’s a, it’s an op-ed by Norman Solomon. He says, wait just a second. This Jeffries guy, this is nothing like you’re expecting. He is so far away from AOC or anything progressive, it’ll make your head spin. He, there, he’s described as a Clinton corporate Democrat, a Clinton corporate Democrat. You know, Clinton’s the guy that brought us NAFTA, destroyed unions. That was okay with the Democrats. They just adjusted. That was okay that he gave us the landmark crime bill that housed more people because it was the advent of corporate prisons. That’s what Bill Clinton lost, left us. Wall Street deregulations brought on the two eight, 2008 meltdown. You’ve got the, he created, he created havoc where it comes to prevent, to progressive issues. That’s what Clinton did. This guy is Clinton on steroids.

Farron Cousins: He really is. And Clinton also gave us the Telecommunications Act, which.

Mike Papantonio: Oh, yeah, by the way.

Farron Cousins: It helped conform the consolidated corporate media. But look, Jeffries, it’s not the progressive, it’s not the kind of person the Democrats really should have gone with at this moment. What they’ve elected is basically 30 more years of another version of Nancy Pelosi because this guy isn’t a fighter. He’s great at raising money, which is what Pelosi’s biggest strength was. And that appears to be all they care about.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: When it comes to actually doing a, writing a piece of legislation to help the American public, to help struggling families, this is not the guy, he is not the savior. We still have to look elsewhere.

Mike Papantonio: If you go down the list of issues progressive that he voted against, it is staggering. I mean, all, and Pelosi knows this. She came up with the housing bill in New York. The guy comes out and votes against it. That’s just fair housing where they wanna, we need to check.

Farron Cousins: And that’s his area.

Mike Papantonio: That’s his area.

Farron Cousins: He’s like, I’m not even gonna help my people.

Mike Papantonio: And oh, by the way, while that’s happening, he gets more hedge fund money than any Democrat up in Washington right now. Hedge fund money. So you think Wall Street loves him because he cares about progressives or do you think they love him because this is the new Democrat, the corporate Democrat? That’s what we have here is the corporate Democrat. And it’s just a rework. It’s a rework of Bill Clinton, isn’t it?

Farron Cousins: It, it, it is. And what we can expect, obviously more pushback against the progressives, which is one thing he’s actually on record as saying, you know.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah. Talk about that. I missed that whole thing.

Farron Cousins: He’s, there will never be a moment where I bend the knee to hard left Democratic socialism.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: Which Democratic socialism is basically FDR.

Mike Papantonio: Hates Bernie Sanders. This guy hates Bernie Sanders. Anytime he can talk about Bernie Sanders, by God, he’s gonna talk about Bernie’s a socialist, you know, borderline communist. He’s gonna destroy the American economy, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. This is the guy that Nancy Pelosi said is the future of the Democratic Party. That’s, those are her words.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: She, he is the future of the Democratic Party.

Farron Cousins: There, there’s a ton of bright stars in the House.

Mike Papantonio: Oh, there’s so many.

Farron Cousins: I mean, you could have gone with a Ro Khanna, a Katie Porter, a Ted Lieu.

Mike Papantonio: Why not a Katie Porter? I mean, Katie Porter is just.

Farron Cousins: Do you know, let me put it this way. The Republicans spent 8 million to unseat Katie Porter.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: The Democratic Party put $300,000 in her race.

Mike Papantonio: Wow, wow.

Farron Cousins: They don’t want her there. And she, she eked one out. It was tough.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: But she got it.

Mike Papantonio: Well, she, she’s at the other hemisphere of this Jeffries cat that’s gonna be leading the Democrats now.

Republicans gain control of Congress in less than a month and they’ve already packed the agenda with investigations into everything. We’re gonna investigate the Hunter Biden issue. We’re gonna investigate voting. We’re gonna investigate the CIA, this, this one I do love, investigate the FBI and CIA and their political involvement. I do love that. But, you know, they can’t, they can’t learn. Every time they do that they lose the next time. I mean, you could, it’s just, you could graph it out, you know, midterm wins and they start all these investigations. Well, they, they lose the next time. I don’t know. What do you think, where do you think this goes?

Farron Cousins: It, it’s the politics of revenge, which is basically where we’re at, I think a lot with both parties at this point.

Mike Papantonio: Oh yeah, definitely.

Farron Cousins: You know, we get power, we’re gonna take on your guys. Well, we got it now, we’re gonna take on your guys. And the Republicans ran in the midterms saying, oh, crime is rampant. We gotta do something about crime.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: Inflation’s terrible, we’re gonna do something about it. We’re gonna do something about all the shortages experiencing, the gas prices. None of that is on the agenda anywhere near it.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: Because they don’t really care.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: But the Hunter Biden, by God, you better get your laptop ready because you’re coming in to talk about it. And listen, what’s funny to me and what’s funny to a lot of other progressives is when they keep hammering Hunter Biden, our response is, go for it. We don’t care about Hunter Biden.

Mike Papantonio: Unless they have that magic bullet that ties Joe Biden up to the Hunter Biden story, which they say they do. I don’t know. Time will tell. We’ll see. But the point is, I kind of like this because it’s, it’s going to, it’s gonna destroy ’em in the next, if they, they don’t learn, if they don’t say do some good things for people. Do, do some things on climate, do some things on education, do some things on human welfare, do some good things, and don’t waste all this time with all this negativity. I’ll tell you who ought to be worried is that little Schiff guy. What’s his.

Farron Cousins: Adam Schiff. Well, they, they’ve already suggested they’re gonna kick him off his committees.

Mike Papantonio: Oh yeah. Yeah.

Farron Cousins: You know, that’s part of the politics of revenge. But six months ago, six months ago, Kevin McCarthy in an interview was talking about we’re not gonna waste our time with investigations.

Mike Papantonio: I know, man.

Farron Cousins: Because he admitted, he goes, that’ll kill us in 2024.

Mike Papantonio:They all know it.

Farron Cousins: But he let people like Marjorie Taylor Green, he made deals with her.

Mike Papantonio: Yeah.

Farron Cousins: Support me for speaker. I will let you investigate whatever you want to do.

Mike Papantonio: Okay. And the media will eat it up. The media sees what exactly what we’re talking about.

Farron Cousins: Yeah.

Mike Papantonio: The more these people look like kooks and they can’t help themselves. They simply, Republicans can’t help themselves. They always have to look a little crazy. This is gonna make ’em look as crazy as a loon.

Farron Cousins: Yep.

Mike Papantonio: And so the media’s going to feed that into everyday news and that’s gonna be the brand by the time it’s all over.

Farron Cousins: Yeah. They can’t help themselves, like you said.

Mike Papantonio: Farron, thank you for joining me.

Farron Cousins: Thank you.

Mike Papantonio: That’s all for this week. But all these segment, segments are gonna be available this coming week right here on this channel. And you can follow us on Twitter @AmericasLawyer. I’m Mike Papantonio and this has been America’s Lawyer, where every week we tell you the stories that corporate media won’t tell you because their advertisers won’t let ’em tell you the story or because their political connections are so deep that they can’t tell the story. But we can. So we’ll see you here next time.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.