Progressives are on the hunt for new candidates to replace the very few, but very old, real progressive leaders in Washington. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.


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Mike Papantonio:             Progressives are on the hunt for new candidates to replace the very few, but very old real progressive leaders in Washington. You know, before we came on the set, I said, I can’t think of anybody that I want to replace, that I would want to put in that slot. Give me some names. I mean, we’re talking about, we’re talking about Bernie quality.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             We’re talking about Elizabeth Warren kind of quality candidate. What do you think?

Farron Cousins:                  Well, you know, we, we’ve talked a lot about just the aging problem with the Democratic party, but on the actual progressive side, yeah, we’ve got two people. Bernie’s 81, she’s in her early seventies. They’re kind of aged out and people understand that. They’re not gonna run again in 2024, and honestly they shouldn’t.

Mike Papantonio:             No.

Farron Cousins:                  Bernie Sanders at 83 should not run. Love the guy, but it, it’s not happening. So the question is, who carries the torch? Who is out there actually fighting against corporations, fighting for workers? A couple names to me come to mind. Katie Porter out in California.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  She is.

Mike Papantonio:             You, you really like her.

Farron Cousins:                  I really like Katie Porter.

Mike Papantonio:             Every time you talk about Katie Porter, you light up. Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  I, I am just absolutely loving Katie Porter because you watch her on the House floor during these hearings, taking on these CEOs better than anybody I’ve seen.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. That’s what, she’s smart, isn’t she?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             I mean, and, and she’s not afraid. She, she’s, you know, obviously when she takes on these big corporations, they dry up money to her, but she doesn’t seem to be afraid of that. Anybody else you can think of?

Farron Cousins:                  Possibly Ro Khanna. He’s actually also from California.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  He actually served as kind of Bernie’s right hand man during his 2020 presidential campaign.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  So he’s very much like Bernie. He’s got baggage. You know, we actually brought him up recently talking about the insider trading stuff.

Mike Papantonio:             Right, right, right.

Farron Cousins:                  His wife, his family. So.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s a pretty ugly story.

Farron Cousins:                  That’s what, that’s what turns me off about him now. But, Katie Porter, I, I’ve, I’ve dug, I’ve dug, I’ve dug, I don’t see the baggage. She’s not somebody that the conservative media’s been out there trashing for years, which is a problem that the squad has.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  They’ve been so tarnished by right wing media, I don’t think they could have broad appeal.

Mike Papantonio:             Whether, you know, I, I, as I watch the squad.

Farron Cousins:                  And, and I like them. I do.

Mike Papantonio:             I do, I, I, they do some good things.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             I don’t know whether they just don’t do it right or whether the media is just so set and, and, and they don’t, you know, corporate media does not like progressives. I mean.

Farron Cousins:                  Right.

Mike Papantonio:             They may act like they do. You may watch MSNBC and you may say they really have kinship with progressives. They don’t.

Farron Cousins:                  We’ve, we’ve.

Mike Papantonio:             There’s no.

Farron Cousins:                  We know firsthand behind the scenes stuff they hate progressives at MSNBC.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. I did MSNBC, as you know, for a long time, you were one of the producers that worked with me when I’d made, I’d make, I’d be on a couple times a week and they’d rarely let you tell the story. So for us to believe that progressives, progressives have an easy run with media and that they’re gonna support, that’ll be the problem with Katie Porter, won’t it?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. It.

Mike Papantonio:             The problem will be they will do everything they can to dis, to discredit her.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. But actually too, if you look at Katie Porter’s voting record, she does have a very, a moderate coming across voting record.

Mike Papantonio:             Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  So she doesn’t, she’s not super extreme, but the fact that she takes on corporate power and does advocate for workers, the working class, consumers, that’s the kind of thing we need. And, and in her mold, we could bring more people in that way.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. Maybe we can ask as people watch this, you send in your comments, give, give us some ideas.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. We need more names.

Mike Papantonio:             We’ll, we will, we need a lot.

Farron Cousins:                  We need more than just Katie Porter.

Mike Papantonio:             We need a lot more names. Farron, thank you for joining me. Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  Thank you.

Mike Papantonio:             That’s all for this week. But all these segments are gonna be available this coming week right here on this channel and you can follow us on Twitter @AmericasLawyer. I’m Mike Papantonio and this has been America’s Lawyer, where every week we tell you the stories that corporate media won’t tell you because their advertisers won’t let ’em and their political connections don’t allow for it. We’ll see you next time.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.