Starbucks is accusing their workers of kidnapping a manager – but all they really did was request better benefits. Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.


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Mike Papantonio:             Starbucks is accusing their workers of kidnapping a manager, but all they really did was request better benefits. I, I dunno, you read this story and it makes it sound like the manager was held hostage. Like, if you don’t fix this machine, we’re going to never let you go. If you don’t give us benefits, we’re never gonna let you go. But this is part of the spin. Look, let me just tell you something. I have been shocked by how good Starbucks has been at, at pushing back the unions. I mean, they’ve been amazing. They’ve been like the worst of the worst, the people who we talk about all the time that are destroying the possibilities of unionizing. These people are masters at it.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. They, they are. And I think at this point they may have gotten a little too greedy with these claims of, of kidnapping of this manager, because they had been doing a, a decent job of systemically getting people to not unionize. Closing stores where they were about to unionize saying, you don’t get the benefits of the unionized workers. So you’re actually getting worse. But this particular instance, there’s full video evidence that these workers in South Carolina united together, went up to the manager and basically wanted better benefits. Go and fight for us, essentially is what they’re telling, because they know the manager can’t unilaterally do it. And the manager says, can, can I just go? And they’re like, well, yeah. I mean the door is right there, dude. If you wanna walk out, walk out. And then Starbucks says, this man was kidnapped.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And held hostage.

Mike Papantonio:             His lawyers are tell, I mean, you know, look, I don’t know how they built this. I guess it’s the every man kind of image that they had, where you take your computer, you go drink coffee. You have people that you can talk to every morning that you see there all the time. It was almost like a community. Like a family. Buddy, I’ll tell you what, that’s unwinding by the second. And right now these folks are regarded, really, if you take everybody who’s union busting, Amazon, the whole bunch of ’em, these people have the imperial, they have the imperial data on how to go about doing that.

Farron Cousins:                  It, it is truly disturbing. And you know, again, we’re seeing a big union push here in the United States today, which is wonderful. Something we haven’t seen since the seventies and companies like Starbucks, companies like Amazon, they want to do whatever they can to keep the workers down. And they’ve made it clear to some of these people that have given 15 years of their life, firing them for no reason saying, guess what? You’re expendable. You wanna start a union? We’ll just bring in the next person up.

Mike Papantonio:             Wasn’t this company regarded at one time is the woke company?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             In the world. The, the, the woke company. Well, this is part of their wokeness.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.