America’s Lawyer E14: President Biden went to Saudi Arabia recently, and the trip could not have gone worse. We’ll tell you why this move as a mistake from the start. A new report shows that trust in the media is at an all-time low, which is leading nearly half of Americans to avoid the news altogether. We’ll tell you what’s happening. And a new lawsuit says that the popular candy Skittles aren’t safe for human consumption – and they may be right. We’ll bring you the details.All that, and more is coming up, so don’t go anywhere – America’s Lawyer starts right now.


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Mike Papantonio:             Hi, Mike Papantonio and this is America’s Lawyer. President Biden went to Saudi Arabia recently and the trip could not have gone worse. We’ll tell you why his move was a mistake from the very start. A new report shows that trust in the media is at an all time low, which is leading nearly half of Americans to avoid the news completely. We’ll tell you what’s happening. And a new lawsuit says that the popular candy Skittles, well, they’re not safe for human consumption and they might be a bigger problem than anybody dreamed of. We’ll bring you to details. All that and more it’s all coming up. Don’t go anywhere. This is America’s Lawyer and it starts right now.

President Biden is back from his trip to Saudi Arabian and it didn’t go all that well. Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins joins me to talk about what happened. We kind of have done three story, well, we did three stories before he went saying, don’t go, don’t go. It’s a mistake. It’s a mistake. Give me your take on it.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. It really, well, first of all, he shouldn’t have gone in the first place. You know, he, he absolutely should not have made this trip. And when he gets there, he did do the right thing. He brought up Jamal Khashoggi and the fact, hey, you killed him.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  And then Saudi Arabia kind of hit back at something that, you know, makes a lot of sense. Like, well, do you remember Abu Ghraib? Do you remember all of those other journalists that you have killed around the globe? And you’re gonna sit here and lecture us.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  About killing one man, which you know, kind of is a bit of an admission, like yeah, we killed him, but you guys are pretty bad too. And it just shows that the US unfortunately has no moral high ground on any of these issues.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s really hard to hear coming from this psycho punk.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             MBS who shouldn’t be there to begin with. I mean, the question always come, the one of, one of Khashoggi’s issues was he would ask the question, how did these people get in, how, how are they in power? Who gave them the right to even be in power? How is all of this oil rich land theirs? It’s almost like there was no proclamation. And then you had, you had the British that supported the Royal family and that just can, you know, started a chain reaction. And the Royal family’s been there ever since threatening everybody who poses a risk to them. But to have MBS have the moral high ground when he says, well, what about your invasion of Iraq that was based on a total lie that was created by Dick Cheney and Bush and all those war pimps? And how about your, how about your involvement with Israeli par, apartheid, where you’re, where you’re pumping that up? So it raised some issues, but the, the, the real, the real issue comes down to this, he shouldn’t have been there to begin with. This is an ugly, ugly dictator that actually watched Khas, there’s some question, did he watch Khashoggi being murdered and dismembered as it was going on through a TV set?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah, that, that is definitely something that, you know, is likely to have happened. There’s, you know, a little bit of evidence out there to say that he was watching this and understood what happened. But to bring up these issues again, and Saudi Arabia was right there with us, by the way, for him to bring that up is ridiculous because they were right there with us with Iraq.

Mike Papantonio:             Oh yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  You know, they, they supported that a hundred percent.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And MBS was a part of that family. But there, there is a point to be made here. I mean, we never really had justice of any kind, the conversation just disappeared about all of that torture. The last we heard from it was when Eric Holder came in as AG and said, I’m looking forward, not backward.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And then all the torture stuff just disappeared.

Mike Papantonio:             Well that was

Farron Cousins:                  We just forget.

Mike Papantonio:             That was the Obama approach, right?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             We, that Wall Street stole $3 trillion from the American public, Obama ran on the idea, we’re gonna look forward. Well, he didn’t run. He, he ran on the idea, we’re gonna go after ’em.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             Soon as he was in office, you had people like Eric Holder and Obama saying, we wanna look forward, not backward because the money was threatening their agenda. But on this story, I, to me, I think the important thing about it is when we know that Allende, for example, we murdered Allende. The CIA has murdered a lot of leaders over, over the globe, over a period of time. But when we kind of get it rubbed in our face by this psychopathic punk, it’s pretty painful.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             An appeals court has revived a lawsuit against Bayer AG by a man who says his cancer was caused by exposure to Roundup weed killer. Well, first of all, you know, you and I have followed, matter of fact, I handled the, some of the first Roundup cases that were ever filed in the United States. I took the, probably the first three or four depositions in that case. These people are absolutely devoted to putting money ahead of everything. In, in the fifties, you, you and I have talked about this, they had clear indication that their weed killer would cause cancer, non Hodgkin’s lymphoma. The rats, the rat studies, they phonied them up. They took those studies, phonied them up and the EPA found out about the studies being phonied up and still didn’t do anything it.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. That’s what people need to understand. Because you look at it right now, the EPA says, no, no, no glyphosate, totally safe. Not gonna cause cancer. You’ve got nothing to worry about. Well, 30 years ago, the EPA was telling us a very different story. They were telling us that Monsanto who was making it before Bayer bought them out, Monsanto lied to you. They covered up these studies. Early nineties, EPA says this stuff will absolutely give you cancer.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  Like unequivocally, our studies show it, their studies show it. And then a few years later, you know, you got some lobbying on behalf of Monsanto. They created this, you know, glyphosate task force to whitewash every horrible piece of news.

Mike Papantonio:             Well, let me, you know, what people miss about this story is it was very evident when I was taking the depositions, this is all tied into globalism, you understand. Glyphosate was gonna be the thing that was going to save the planet from food shortage. You had the, you had the Clinton administration and the Bush administration say, we have to have this. We can’t put any kind of limits on these folks because we need food all over the world. Well, it was a big lie. It was an absolute lie. And instead of creating anything positive, they decimated the farming industry in places like India, Pakistan and places like that around the world.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. And, and again, totally money driven because after, you know, they’re marketing Roundup, they say, well, hey, at the same time, why don’t you buy our Roundup ready crops?

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So that way you can just spray this stuff all over your fields. It’ll kill your weeds, but not your crop. And now we’re at the point where recent studies showed that 80% of people tested, you know, men, women, children across the board, 80% have glyphosate in their bodies right now.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. And the problem is it’s cumulative. It doesn’t, it, it’s, you may, it may get rid of part of it over a period of time. But every, you’re reloading all of the time. The biggest problem that we found in the case early on was the damage it does to children. When children are at a growth stage, it causes all types of possible cancers in that child, every thing from leukemia to cancer in the bone plates. They knew all this. And the, the thing, the, what I love that, what, what I love about this decision by the appeals court, it says, you know what? We don’t care what the EPA says. The, the argument was by the company was well, the EPA told us what we could and could not label. And therefore we’re protected. The appeals court says, hell no, we’re not gonna rely on this dysfunctional EPA anymore.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. And the EPA as we know has been, you know, captured by the regulatory or by the agencies they’re supposed to regulate for 30, 40 years at this point. You can’t really trust what’s coming out of that agency whatsoever. I mean, we’ve got lobbyists, we’ve got industry insiders, all kinds of people that have headed up this agency and completely dismantled it and made it a joke from the inside out.

Mike Papantonio:             The last three folks that have been at the very top of the structure of the EPA, all came from corporate in, they all came from the corporate side of it. They were either lobbyists for corporate. They were political for corporate. They worked with corporate where it came to chemicals and pesticides and herbicides. Every, every one of ’em had those ties and every president that appointed them knew that. And they had all the information they needed to know that this guy is nothing but a corporate whore that’s going to allow corporate America to do whatever they want. And this, that’s the Roundup story exactly.

Farron Cousins:                  Yep.

Mike Papantonio:             Nearly half of Americans say that they avoid reading the news, it’s a problem both for citizens and the, and journalists. This is, these are startling kinds of numbers that I read. This was in the Guardian. And, well first of all, give me your take on that story where they say 42% of the, of the public now avoids the news totally. And I wanna go through the list of reasons.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. I, I, I think it’s obviously a very bad thing for this country. We’re already so misinformed and uninformed as it is. So for almost half the country to say, you know what? I’m just done with the news. It is really bad for our, our public education. But then again, if you are a regular news consumer, you’re still probably not getting real actual factual news. So I don’t know if it’s bad that people aren’t watching the news or if it’s good that people aren’t watching the news. I just know we’ve got some big problems and I, I don’t even know where to begin.

Mike Papantonio:             Here, here’s the list of things that the writers say that the reason that there, the news is in the hole right now. Loss of confidence in the news. Hate agendas, they say there’s too much hate agenda by the news. The, that it’s untrustworthy. These are words that come out of these polls. That the bias is such that they can’t believe what they’re being told. That it’s inaccurate, most of the time it’s gonna be inaccurate when they do their own look and they find out well, was this true? It’s self-serving. Now you and I have talked about this. Self-serving in the fact that they’re gonna let an advertiser get away with a hell of a lot. For example, the pharmaceutical industry advertising on all the media, every, every four seconds, you have an ad. Well, it’s very difficult to break through and have the news actually report that, that pharmaceutical, that they’re advertising is killing people. Or how about the weapons industry that you like to talk about?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah, they, they’re sitting there Boeing, you know, advertising. Oh, look at our, our wonderful jet engines. GE is another one. Look at, we’re making these wonderful jet engines here on this commercial. What are you even selling? I mean, we’re not.

Mike Papantonio:             Are you gonna buy a jet engine?

Farron Cousins:                  I, I have no plans for it in the future.

Mike Papantonio:             But what are they really doing?

Farron Cousins:                  They’re buying their influence. They’re making sure that, hey, you can’t go after us because we just spent 40 million this quarter.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Making sure that we running ads on your network.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So you gotta be nice to us.

Mike Papantonio:             That’s one of the things that people are recognizing right now.

Farron Cousins:                  And it’s about time.

Mike Papantonio:             That’s self-serving advertising agendas. The fact, this is startling to me, that they felt like the, the media is trying to engage in social engineering that offended, that’s offensive to them. Their point being, just give me the news. Another point was that it’s being driven, that all the media is being driven by the top 1% elite. But I, I don’t think you can put it all on the media, do you?

Farron Cousins:                  No, I, I think a lot of it has to do with, you know, people just in general seeking out information that just reaffirms what they already believe.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  You know, the stuff they want to hear. And, and we, we do see that all the time, you know, we see it on the left, we see it on the right. People only want to know what they think they already know or something, of course, as you pointed out that the hate agenda that’s gonna make ’em angry, or that’s gonna show that, hey, this person you dislike did another bad thing. I mean that, that’s what most of all online media is today.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. Well, they’re, microfocused on their agenda. It’s almost childlike. You and I joke all the time, we can put up a story that this, the headlines can be cancer, I mean, is cured. Cancer is, is cured, cured last Wednesday. And we can put that story up and then right underneath the story with our, I guess, with our group of folks that follow it, we can put Trump hatred. We can put Republican hatred. We can put anything that, that, that, that falls on Trump hatred. That sh, that story will get more or as many as cured cancer. Now, why is that?

Farron Cousins:                  Well, again, people seek out the information that they think is gonna make them feel better. You know, that reaffirms whatever it is they already believe. And again, you know, it’s, it’s not just us. It’s, it’s everybody.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  With any kind of, you know, political YouTube channel. We, we see it all the time on the left, on the right. The right is saying, oh, the left is terrible. Watch this horrible thing. Oh, the right is terrible. Watch this horrible thing. And in between that, you know, we, we always try to give real news, real factual things. We’re not afraid to go after both sides when they deserve it.

Mike Papantonio:             But what, watch what happens when we do that. You see, if I stand up here and even talk about the middle, here, here’s the middle position, the outrage is ridic. You know, Farron why are you doing the show with Pap? Pap, you know, you’ve turned into right. It, it’s, the problem is it’s almost a childlike analysis. I only want to eat the ice cream. I don’t want to eat the vegetables. And so, so the news is no longer the vegetables, the news is all ice cream. Here, you’re a right-winger, here’s your news. You’re a left wing progressive. We know this is all you want to listen to because apparently it’s too painful to listen to anything else. So here it is. It’s a dangerous place that we are right now.

Farron Cousins:                  It, it really is. And you know, one of the things too that came out of this report was the, the young people. The young people and I found this was really interesting, because it kind of goes back to the olden days, the young people say we want long form information from podcasts.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm. That is interesting.

Farron Cousins:                  But what that reminds me of is, you know, way back in, you know, my young days in the eighties, it was 60 minutes. That’s your long form news.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  Go all the way back, you know, to your Ed Murrows and your Cronkites.

Mike Papantonio:             They couldn’t.

Farron Cousins:                  That’s what it was.

Mike Papantonio:             They couldn’t exist.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. But it almost seems like this young generation wants to go back to that a little bit.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  They actually say, well, let’s just, let’s let me hear people explain things.

Mike Papantonio:             We think that it’s the millennials that are doing this polarized kind of listening. It’s not.

Farron Cousins:                  It’s not.

Mike Papantonio:             As much as it is, is the baby boomers.

Farron Cousins:                  It really is.

Mike Papantonio:             Which is a big surprise. It’s the baby boomers that I swear, you know, people miss the fact, for example, that our law firm owns all of Ring of Fire and in your stories, our stories run progressive about 10 to one. But even that one story, oh God, don’t tell me something I don’t want to hear. I think it’s dangerous.

Farron Cousins:                  It, it really is. People have to understand, you know, you have to get all sides of it. Otherwise you’re getting propaganda.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah, exactly.

Farron Cousins:                  You know, we, it’s not our job to be a cheerleader for one side or the other.

Mike Papantonio:             Right.

Farron Cousins:                  And most of the media has gone to the cheerleading role.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  You know, it’s either our side is better, your side sucks or everything is okay, everything is fine. These corporations, no, no, no. They’re not doing anything bad to you.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. Even when you do your stories that are beat the hell outta Trump, or beat the hell out of the Republicans. Again, that’s a Ring of Fire product that we, we engage in. I mean, we own, we own this. So we want 10 to one, but we want that middle story to at least get somebody’s attention to say my God, I’ve never thought about that. Very tough to do nowadays.

Nancy Pelosi’s husband bought millions in tech stock as Congress works on legislation that would clearly benefit industry. Wow. You know, I saw this story and the, it, it’s almost as if the writer completely missed the point. Don’t you think? Tell, why don’t you set it up. Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. You know, we got this story from Yahoo finance. They talk about, oh, you’ve got Paul Pelosi. He, he exercised options is the way they put it. He bought $5 million worth of stock, is what.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. Which is fine.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. But then they didn’t explain at all in this particular piece.

Mike Papantonio:             Yahoo finance, this is Yahoo finance.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. Why that matters? You know, why, why do I even care that you’re reporting that Paul Pelosi bought 5 million in Nvidia stock?

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, the real reason that this Yahoo finance reporter forgot to mention is that Congress is considering legislation to boost semiconductor production in the United States.

Mike Papantonio:             Right.

Farron Cousins:                  Basically hand a ton of money over two companies like Nvidia that’s gonna benefit the people who own the stock.

Mike Papantonio:             Isn’t this what we’re talking about? Here’s a reporter that does a two page report, talks about Pelosi and his, Pelosi’s husband and selling, he sold 200 options, he, call options 20,000 shares, $5 million over the count. Doesn’t ever tie it up. Why the hell do I care? How about this? The guy goes out and sells and buys semiconductor stock the week before, oh, by the way, coincidence, that Nancy Pelosi is pushing through this bill that’s going to bolster production of semiconductors. I mean, it’s, how does a reporter miss that?

Farron Cousins:                  Right. I mean, that is the actual heart of the story. That’s why this matters. I don’t care about, you know, Paul Pelosi’s random stock purchases.

Mike Papantonio:             It doesn’t.

Farron Cousins:                  Tie it up to something that has to do with Congress and then it suddenly does become an issue here. And this absolutely is a big issue. I know Paul Pelosi is not in Congress, but his, his spouse here is running Congress.

Mike Papantonio:             She’s running Congress. She knows a vote’s coming up that’s going to put a ton of money into the semiconductor business. Hey baby, you know, what’s gonna happen next week? We’re gonna do this. Why don’t you go buy some stock? Nancy Pelosi of course, kicking and screaming says, I will not change the law that allows congressmen and congresswomen to trade shares. I, I’m just not gonna do it. And all of a sudden she’s caught red-handed. I, I haven’t heard an explanation. Nobody’s asked her the tough question, ma’am this is insider trading. If anybody else did that besides you, they would be in prison for insider trading. But you can do it? Really?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. And that’s the big problem with this, is she disclosed it on her financial forms. So she said, yep, here it is. It happened. I’m reporting it like I’m supposed to. And because she did that, there is no criminal penalty whatsoever.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And even if there were, it would only be a $200 fine for Pelosi’s husband.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s and announce, it’s an announcement, isn’t it? Isn’t it, Farron?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             It, the announcement is this, I’m going to engage in insider trading. Since I’ve told you I’m gonna do it, I’m gonna be free to do it. If anybody else do it, did it, they’re gonna end up in prison. Wow.

Farron Cousins:                  Anybody outside of Congress.

Mike Papantonio:             Anybody out.

Farron Cousins:                  Because the rest of them can do it too.

Mike Papantonio:             Exactly. But, but, and she’s the one that’s fighting desperately to keep the right to be able to do that in Congress.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, and we have seen look, dozens and dozens. We’ve talked about this. It’s Democrats, it’s Republicans.

Mike Papantonio:             Oh, it’s.

Farron Cousins:                  It’s most of them doing this and it’s hundreds of their staffers too, that do this.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s not party driven.

Farron Cousins:                  And nobody gets in trouble.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s just, it’s okay because they’re a Congressman. It’s, it’s.

Farron Cousins:                  It’s, it’s one big club and we’re not in it.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. And it’s disgusting.

John Bolton recently admitted what, by the way, what a nut case. But he, he recently admitted that he helped orchestrate coups all around the country on behalf of the US, all over the globe on behalf of the US government. Question is, did the fruit cake ever think about a coup in the United States? My bet is, yes, he did. What is your take on this?

Farron Cousins:                  This, this was such a stunning admission from Bolton here when he is, you know, talking to Jake Tapper and says, you know, I know a coup when I’ve seen it. I’ve, I’ve orchestrated a couple coup d’etats in my day. And then Tapper said, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa. Let’s.

Mike Papantonio:             Slow down there.

Farron Cousins:                  Hang on now.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So to his credit, Tapper did say.

Mike Papantonio:             I, I was.

Farron Cousins:                  I feel like there’s something you’re not telling me. And Bolton then says, I assure you there is. I, I mean, my God, how, how are we not focusing on this story in the media every day? This is huge.

Mike Papantonio:             Well, how about, how about, how about they never have, okay. I mean, really this has been going on with this guy. Look, there’s never been a war that Bolton didn’t want, didn’t love. Russia, yeah, let’s go after Russia. China, yeah, we need a war with China. Yemen, he was out front on Yemen. Syria, we need a war with, with Syria. Congo, yeah, we need to invade the Congo. Venezuela, we need to change the, we change leadership in, in Venezuela. And who does he do it for? He does it for all the corporate types, Raytheon and McDonnell Douglas and Boeing. Those are the people that he represents and, and, and, and, and nobody seems to be able to connect the fact that the guy’s a dangerous war pimp, and he’s still walking around in Washington, respected. He’s still showing up on, still showing up on the morning news Sunday mornings.

Farron Cousins:                  I know. And, and to feel confident enough to actually admit this. I mean, we, we’ve all known. I mean, those of us who, who understand eighties politics, going back to Iran Contra, we know who John Bolton is. He was involved in that.

Mike Papantonio:             Oh, yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So he’s been doing this for decades. But for him to now feel confident enough that I can go out there and sit on CNN and talk to the tens of people watching it and say, yeah, I, I did coup d’etats around the globe. What are you gonna do about it?

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. In, in the Iran Contra, I mean, his whole thing was we gotta stop the Sandinista’s, you know, we gotta get involved. And the truth was, when you look back at it, it was a conflict almost completely driven by the United States.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             And he was the guy behind it. But you know CNN loves him. Have you, sometimes count the number of times you will see this screw ball on CNN where he’s talking world policy and he’s use and, and advertisers love him.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             I mean, Boeing and Raytheon, McDonnell, they love this guy because he’s the guy that’s talking up war all the time, including the war that’s going on right now in Ukraine. He wants to expand the war.

Farron Cousins:                  And, and CNN, you know, when there’s international conflict, that’s about the only time they actually get ratings.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So that’s why this guy works for them.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  If he’s out there pushing war, if they can get a war, CNN might, you know, survive another day.

Mike Papantonio:             War, war sells. CNN is the worst of the worst where it comes to selling war and this is their guy right here.

A new lawsuit claims that Skittles are unsafe for human consumption. And I, my guess is that they’re right, since the Skittles contains titanium oxide.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             I mean, we’ve known what titanium oxide is for generations, how dangerous it is. Pick it up.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. This stuff has the ability, titanium dioxide here to change your DNA, to alter DNA, especially in Skittles core demographic children.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  Children love Skittles. They’re, they’re colorful. They’re fruity. They’re wonderful. And this chemical, that Skittles actually swore years ago, we’re taking it out, we’re taking it out. Never did.

Mike Papantonio:             Well, 2016 they said we’ve taken it out. Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  And, and.

Mike Papantonio:             They lied.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. And so this can absolutely destroy a human’s body. Studies have shown this. It’s so bad that Europe, this month is going to ban it.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. The entire.

Farron Cousins:                  They’re gonna get rid of it.

Mike Papantonio:             Entire EU says you may not sell titanium dioxide here in Europe. I mean, and they said, here’s the reasons, the reasons is, hey, you have to know, this is something that’s used in paint, house paint. This is something that’s used in adhesives, all kinds of adhesives. And oh, by the way, we even use it in roofing materials and on, and on. It, the, the places that this stuff is used, it, it’s the equivalent of saying it’s okay for your child to go out and chew on a, a roofing shingle. That’s, that’s, that’s, what’s in this stuff. And they’ve, it’s been there for now since 2016, we found out about, it was in there long before. It’s dangerous, man.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. And, and so this lawsuit, which they’re trying to get, you know, the class action for this, which I, I can’t, I have to imagine that class would be what everybody in the country that’s consumed a Skittle. It’s saying that, listen, you’re not being forthright with us. You’re not telling us this is in there. You know, you look on the label, where is it saying titanium dioxide?

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So you’re, you’re lying to consumers. And unfortunately, that’s all we can get ’em for.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  We can’t get them right now for any specific damages.

Mike Papantonio:             I, I don’t know that we can even do that because the FDA or the E, excuse me. Yeah, the FDA has given, the FDA look, sided with this company. They said that the, the titanium dioxide is fine because it’s so little. It’s just so little. But what if you’re eating a package of these things a week? It’s not little because it’s a chemical that is cumulative. It gets within the, it’s systemically cumulative. It sets up in the organ systems. And the more that you eat, the more that threshold gets higher and higher. But it look, DNA damage. Leg, they’re finding lesions on the liver, lesions on the kidneys, that they’re directly relating to ti, titanium dioxide.

Farron Cousins:                  And that’s certainly not what you would expect from sitting down and eating a pack of Skittles.

Mike Papantonio:             I wouldn’t think so.

The Democratic party has a very obvious leader problem. You think? But the aging establishment is refusing to let go. My God, they just have to hang on. The quick, look, here’s the quick news, Biden, 79. Pelosi, 82. A majority whip, our majority whip is, is 81. Durban is 81. He’s, you know, these, it’s like fossil fuel up there right now. It’s Jurassic Park goes to Washington. Give me your take on it.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, look, this is something I’m really glad the media is starting to talk about these issues because you and I have been mentioning this for years now and it is starting to gain traction. You have more and more people coming out talking about the ages of these individuals. Some of it has to do clearly with Biden with his age. That is a huge story out right now. But also I think I gotta give most of this credit to Diane Feinstein, you know, who is gonna be 90.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And the fact that.

Mike Papantonio:             Is she still, I mean, if you put a, if you put a mirror under her nose, will it create condensation? That’s what, every time I look at this woman, It think, good God.

Farron Cousins:                  But, but when those stories came out a couple months ago saying she doesn’t recognize people on the hill, like her staffers, she doesn’t know them.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Her colleagues, she doesn’t recognize them. That kind of kickstarted the conversation a little bit with most normal, you know, non-political news consumers saying, wait a minute, if we have members of Congress that pharmacists have said, yeah, I filled Alzheimer’s prescriptions for them.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  I can’t tell you who, but I have. We have people that have just basically aged out. You know, we, as a society, tend to look at people, you know, whether it’s accurate or not, but once you hit your eighties, we say, okay, well this person, you probably shouldn’t be driving a car. You need help getting around. And yet that’s what we have in, in leadership.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Making our laws. We wouldn’t trust these people to drive a car.

Mike Papantonio:             Watch all of them from Biden to Pelosi, halting speech, constant gaffs. Almost a, a need to take breaks because they’re over, they’re overwhelmed with, with the pressures. But nevertheless, the Democrats, for some reason, ended up with it worse than the Republicans.

Farron Cousins:                  They, they.

Mike Papantonio:             And that’s interesting to me. What, gimme your take on that? I mean.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, they really did. I mean, you know, the Republicans have been trending younger. They appoint younger justices to the Supreme Court, to the federal courts. They understand that we have to pass the torch to this new generation. These folks on the Democratic side are unwilling to do that.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. I, I think of John F. Kennedy, when he came into office, he said the torch has been passed. He was one of the youngest presidents at that point. Torch has been passed. We, we have a new way that we look, out of there came Camelot and the whole notion of Camelot was a new, fresh Democratic party. Politics are fresh again. These folks are hanging on for their life. I guess it’s a good money maker for Pelosi because she’s the insider for insider trading for the old man who’s making a bundle of money. So I, I don’t know. I, I, I, I guess it’s just an economic decision. But why did the Democrats allow it to happen? That’s the problem.

Farron Cousins:                  I don’t, well, you know, what’s important to point out too, is when Kennedy gave that speech, these people were either teenagers or in their early twenties.

Mike Papantonio:             Really. Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  I, I mean, so they say, okay, the torch has been passed to us. I guess somebody has to come along and remind them, you have to pass the torch as well.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  You don’t get to hold it for the next 70 years.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  You’ve gotta find new people.

Mike Papantonio:             Clean, clean the house.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             Clean the house. If they don’t, you’ve got younger voters that these, they, these folks could be the great grandparents, understand the great grandparents of younger voters.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. And, and the, you know, these are the people that think that, oh, we can put on the little Kente cloths and kneel down and that’s.

Mike Papantonio:             That’s cool.

Farron Cousins:                  That’s enough for these people. That’s all they want. Nancy Pelosi calling the Green New Deal the, the green thing.

Mike Papantonio:             Some of it is. I mean, that’s, that’s the amazing thing. Some Democrats look at it like, oh yeah, this is okay. They have a lot of experience. Thank you for joining me, Farron. Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  Thank you.

Mike Papantonio:             That’s all for this week. But all of these segments are gonna be available this coming week right here on this channel. And you can follow us at Twitter @AmericasLawyer. I’m Mike Papantonio and this has been America’s Lawyer where we tell you the stories that corporate media won’t tell you because their advertisers won’t let ’em or their political connections won’t allow for it. The truth is we call balls and strikes. Stay tuned. We’re here every week.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.