America’s Lawyer E13: Gas prices continue to be a major problem for both consumers and the Biden administration, but is it bad politics or corporate greed driving the high prices? We’ll answer that question in just a moment. The Supreme Court’s ruling against the EPA isn’t just going to impact environmental policy – it could have huge consequences for consumers and workers everywhere. We’ll explain how. And a shocking majority of Americans from BOTH parties want Biden to call it quits after his first term – we’ll bring you the details.  All that, and more is coming up, so don’t go anywhere – America’s Lawyer starts right now.

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Mike Papantonio:             Hi, I’m Mike Papantonio and this is America’s Lawyer. Gas prices, well, they continue to be a major problem for both consumers and the Biden administration, but is it bad politics or is it corporate greed driving the prices high? We’ll answer that question for you. The Supreme Court, well, they’re ruling against the EPA, it isn’t just going to impact environmental policy. It could have huge consequences for consumers and workers everywhere. We’ll explain why. And a shocking majority of Americans from both parties want Biden to call it quits after his first term. We’ll tell you the details. All that and more, it’s all coming up. Don’t go anywhere. Stay here for America’s Lawyer. It starts right now.

Amazon founder Jeff Bezos attacked the Biden administration for calling out oil company prices and price gouging and Ring of Fires Farron Cousins joins me to talk about what’s happening here. And I, I say it again and again, honestly, I follow your stories. You’re really one of the best progressive commentators in the business.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, I appreciate it as always.

Mike Papantonio:             This story really grabbed me. It’s Bezos saying a couple of things. This is after, this is after Biden made this hair brain decision. Let’s send 5 million gallons of our reserve oil that we have for emergencies, let’s send 5 million gallons to China and other countries in Europe. And that’s with this idea, we’re always supposed to have 700 million gallons of reserve oil. It’s been depleted big, big time. So Bezos is saying, you, you gotta fix this man. You, you don’t understand global policy and you’re maybe out of your league where it comes to fixing a problem like this.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, you know, and, and Bezos of course, weighing in more and more on politics, just kind of leads me to believe this guy may be somebody to watch out for, for a future presidential run.

Mike Papantonio:             I agree.

Farron Cousins:                  But you have right now oil companies making more money than they know what to do with, you know, it almost seems like every year the profits get higher and higher and higher. And right now for the first quarter, Exxon alone already made $16 billion.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  And yes, the price of oil is, is over a hundred dollars per barrel. It’s coming down slightly. Gas prices of course, of, in the past week and they’ve trended down about 25 cents national average. But the gouging is what’s really at the heart of this because we have no controls in place at all on what oil companies can do to us.

Mike Papantonio:             Chevron 800% increase in profits, just in the last, in the last, in the last year. They’ve had their two biggest quarters in the entire history of the company. And nevertheless, we’ve got a president that is making his begging tour where he’s going to the Saudis begging for oil. He’s making his rounds begging for oil at the same time, shipping our oil over to China and to Europe. You see the problem there?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah, there.

Mike Papantonio:             I mean, it’s like something’s not connecting with it. And that’s what Bezos is saying. He’s, he’s saying you are a nut case who doesn’t understand economic policy and you, you have no business making decisions you’re making. That’s, that’s, it’s heavy criticism coming from Bezos.

Farron Cousins:                  It, it really is. You know, because Bezos is a guy that always avoids, you know, taxes, whatever he can at any given opportunity. So there is some truth to it, obviously that yes, we, we’ve got bad politics at play here. Biden should not be going around to Saudi Arabia, one of the biggest human rights abusers on the planet and saying, please we’ll do whatever it takes. Give us your oil.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah, bended knees.

Farron Cousins:                  And then taking what we have for emergency use and saying, okay, we’re gonna give it to Italy. We’re gonna send it all over the place. It, it’s, it is very, I mean, it’s stupid. It’s just stupid.

Mike Papantonio:             I don’t, I don’t care how you analyze it. It’s the, it is the workings of an idiot. It is truly the workings of an idiot. And Bezos says, yes, Mr. President, you are an idiot. That’s basically what he’s saying in a nice kinda way.

Bernie Sanders is renewing his calls for a windfall profit tax as corporate price gouging continues to get worse. Isn’t this what president Biden should be doing right now? Saying, hey, look, you’re making a hundred, was it 155% increase in profits over across the board?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             Chevron is 800% increase in profits. Two biggest quar, two biggest quarters Chevron has ever had in its entire history. And we, at the same time, like we talked about are shipping oil overseas to people, taking out of our reserves and Bernie Sanders is saying, wait, wait a second. Why don’t you just initiate a windfall tax? Why don’t you just do that?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. And Bernie’s windfall tax wouldn’t just be for the oil and gas industry. We’re talking about every industry across the board here.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And when people see the number, you know, because he wants a 95% windfall tax, people don’t quite understand what that means. Like, oh we’re gonna tax ’em 95%. No. What it means is we take their pre pandemic profit level, compare it to today. So whatever they make today that is equal to the pre pandemic level that does not get taxed. It’s everything above that level, that then would get taxed at that 95 percent rate. So, you know, we’ve talked about Tyson. Tyson is a great example. They’ve admitted, yeah, we paid a hundred billion more because of inflation, but we charged consumers 2 billion more because we can. It, it’s always that answer, because we can.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  And it is price gouging.

Mike Papantonio:             But, but that’s what a president does.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             It, doesn’t, doesn’t a president take control of that and say, no, that’s not, that’s not appropriate. We’re not gonna let you do that. But, but the point being is Biden is talking about, hey gee, what we ought do is have a federal tax free day. Okay. Now what does that mean? It means that what we’re, what he’s doing is he’s passing this on indirectly to taxpayers because it, it rounds itself out and taxpayers pay it. The same thing where he goes with a, with the tax, the, the set federal tax excise on, on fuel. I think it’s like 18 cents, somewhere 18 to 20 cents. He says there’s discussion, well, let’s do away with that. Well aren’t we really saying, taxpayers why don’t you bear the brunt as Exxon makes an 800% increase in their profits, as all of these companies make more money than they’ve ever made. Why don’t we make taxpayers go ahead and burden? It’s, it’s, it’s all they’re doing is shifting responsibility. Aren’t they?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. And, and I’ve, I’ve repeatedly, you know, talked about on shows, how stupid the gas tax holiday is because do we, does everybody know what the gas tax pays for? It pays for infrastructure in the United States.

Mike Papantonio:             Right, right.

Farron Cousins:                  So we are literally saying, okay, we’re gonna sacrifice our roads and bridges and railways to save you, I think the real number is $270 a year, a year per family. But we’re gonna let these oil companies charge you 800% more.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. In other words, let’s let them make money and taxpayer what, what it’s, what it’s doing, it’s, it’s externalizing all the risks to taxpayers.

Farron Cousins:                  Yep.

Mike Papantonio:             While you internalize, you internalize the profits to the, to the oil companies. That’s exactly what’s going on here.

The Supreme Court’s ruling against the EPA could prove to be a disaster for every government agency. Wow. We take a look at this, you take this ruling on the EPA and you say, well, it’s just really the EPA. No, it’s not the EPA, is it? The EPA is, it’s the beginning. It’s the beginning of this thing that where you, where, where what you’re doing is redesigning how regulations take place. You’re, you’re saying to regulators in general, there’s some things that you can’t regulate without the help of Congress. Right?

Farron Cousins:                  Right. Because the whole EPA ruling was, yeah, I know you want to regulate under the clean air act, these certain emissions from the coal-fired power plants, but the legislation didn’t explicitly say you could do it. Therefore you cannot do it until Congress writes the legislation and says you can. So horrible for the environment, horrible for human health. But think of the implications for OSHA, for the FDA.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  You know, all of these, the SEC.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  Oh, we didn’t say you could prosecute Wall Street criminals in the legislation. So of course you can’t do that. I mean, the, the possibilities are endless about how this can be reinterpreted for other agencies.

Mike Papantonio:             The term is, the term that they used in the order was major question doctrine. You’re gonna hear that term. Major question doctrine is say, it says that there’s some things that are just too big for regulators to do. And we’re gonna take that power away from the regulators. As you say, EPA, FDA, SEC, whatever the regulator may be and we’re gonna require that Congress actually passed some legislation to step into that, into that space. They did say in the opinion that we’re only gonna have this major question doctrine apply only in extraordinary cases. Really?

Farron Cousins:                  Well, and the EPA had basically already ruled in this, not the EPA, excuse me, the Supreme Court had already ruled twice that the EPA did have the authority to do it before coming with this decision saying, oh wait, no, you don’t.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So I don’t think that was a, you know, extraordinary circumstance. We’re gonna see ’em come after other agents.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. It’s a fundamental change in the court’s position on regulation.

The Biden administration is calling for more offshore oil drilling. It’s, it’s a disaster waiting to happen. Now, first of all, let me clear this up. He was asking for more offshore drilling before there was a crisis. He was asking for this all the way back to November. So don’t, you know, if you’re out there and you’re commenting, don’t give us that comment. Well, of course he is, because we have a gas crisis. No, that’s not what we’re saying here. We’re saying this guy ran for office saying, I, you know, we’re gonna shut this down. We’re gonna shut all of this offshore drilling down. And the first thing he does in November of last year, he starts saying, well, let’s have more drilling. Right?

Farron Cousins:                  Yep. And, and, and it’s even worse than that because this is now the third time that he has called for an increase in offshore drilling both, you know, in the Arctic and of course down here by the Gulf of Mexico and all three times when they have announced this, they’ve done it right before a holiday weekend.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah, yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So in November it was the weekend right before Thanksgiving when nobody’s paying attention. They did it the weekend before Easter when nobody’s paying attention. Now they did it the weekend before the 4th of July when nobody’s paying attention to the news because they know one, that it is a direct contradiction of his campaign promise that I’m gonna shut this down. And two, they know how unpopular it is.

Mike Papantonio:             I think that’s the thing that hits you, where he was just lying. He was running and lying about what he was gonna do. Has nothing to do with this gas crisis right now.

Farron Cousins:                  Right.

Mike Papantonio:             Now, maybe in the projected long term, I guess it could. But when you lie to become for, to, to run for office and the first thing you do is you start doing exactly what you’re lying about. You start granting all these leases. Again, this started November way before we had any discussion about there’s an oil crisis. So for his, for his people, his peeps that no matter what he does say, well, no, he was trying to help us. No, he was, he was lying to us. That’s the simple story.

The Republican party is winning the culture wars that they launched and Democrats have absolutely no response to it. Wow. This, this makes me think of Lee Atwater, doesn’t it? This is a repeat of Lee Atwater. Lee Atwater was the dirty tricks guy, learned under Donald Segretti. Ran, you know, ran Bush’s campaign, Bush one. And, and in the end he was, he was really known as the dirty tricks guy. So now what he did is he went, if you remember, launched Ronald Reagan’s campaign in, in Phil, in Mississippi, in one of the most racist places in the entire country that you could launch a campaign and he was launching his, his, his, his culture campaign dealing with race and religion. Remember?

Farron Cousins:                  Yep. And, and, you know, that’s where the whole welfare queen talking point emerged, you know, talking about these people living high on the government dollar.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  While you’re working your butt off at work because the Republican party, and we’re seeing a lot of this now, too, always wants to pretend that they are the party of the working class. That we’ve got your back American worker.

Mike Papantonio:             And, and it’s working.

Farron Cousins:                  It, it is. That, that it’s been working since the eighties.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And so these people, they buy into that idea that yes, you are my party because you do care about my concerns. And you’re telling me more importantly, what’s to blame for it. Maybe, maybe it’s African Americans. Maybe it’s immigrants. Maybe it’s LGBTQ community, whatever it is. It’s always somebody else’s fault why your life is in shambles, basically.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  And the Democrats, once again, they’ve had 40 years to come up with a response to these culture wars. Once again, they’re back on their heels having to come out and address these issues where they don’t even know what they’re talking about or who they’re talking to.

Mike Papantonio:             Right. Here, here, generally here is what it is. It’s a polarization. The G, GOP has figured out it’s, it’s Lee Atwater relived. Okay. The polarization is centering around socialism, you know, be, be wary socialism is coming. Be wary of gays because they’re coming into your kid, they’re coming into your schools. The trans they’re coming to your schools to change the way that your children think. Same-sex marriage be very, very careful there. This, they’re, they’ve taken what I, I saw it described one time and I thought it was, I thought it was pretty accurate. They’ve taken this what they call this snowflake woke image and they’re attacking it.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             The snowflake woke image. And they, and, and there’s no question it’s there. They have plenty to attack. But what, what people don’t understand is how dangerous it is when they start this polarization and division of all of these issues. It just, and unfortunately the American voter responds to it. Certainly, certainly the working class voter responds to it.

Farron Cousins:                  You know, and we look at polls right now. And right now on the social issues, I guess, you know, Roe V Wade, it’s a health issue, but it’s also a social issue. That’s about the only one of these things where the Republican party loses with the American public. They, they support having Roe versus Wade there. They do not support the overturning of it. But when we’re talking about all of these, you know, the trying to, to criminalize the LGBTQ community, the public actually supports those things.

Mike Papantonio:             I know.

Farron Cousins:                  They, they support the transgender athlete bans and the Democrats don’t understand that.

Mike Papantonio:             That’s true. What ends up happening though, is the a, it, it add it, it builds such steam behind it.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             You see, it starts off small. And they’re talking about, they’ll take the, if you look at the right wing kind of media right now, what are you seeing? You’re seeing trans that are coming to your school kids and they’re, they’re telling your school kids that you should be like me. They’re, they’re doing that same thing with all of these issues, whether it’s gay marriage, what, whatever it is, they’re, they’re taking that and they’re doing the same thing that Lee Atwater did when he had, when it was, when it was religion and race and, and what, what he built around that was anger.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             You see, and it wasn’t anger that anybody would even talk about. They wouldn’t say, yeah, they would not use terms like the welfare queen. You wouldn’t come out and say, yeah, the welfare queen’s taking all my tax money. But they understood that there’s a reptilian mind. The American public has a reptilian mind. And that reptilian mind is they may not say it, but they react to it. And these things that we’re talking about right here, we know they react to.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. And, and the Republicans are energized with it. I mean, all of these issues you’ve talked about here, this is why Ron DeSantis has emerged as basically the.

Mike Papantonio:             Absolutely.

Farron Cousins:                  New leader of the Republican party, because he has tapped into every single one of this, you know, critical race theory, banning certain textbooks, making it to where you can legally run over a protestor if they’re in the street.

Mike Papantonio:             Right.

Farron Cousins:                  All the bad things that we see from the Republican party, Ron DeSantis has done it. But in the eyes of those supporters, who, which is the majority of Florida and a lot of the country, it’s not bad things. It’s common sense things they tell us.

Mike Papantonio:             Well, well, and the voters rep, reptilian mind means that every, every decision you make, you make, according to how does it affect me? That’s the rep, purely a reptilian mind. And so when they make these decisions, there’s no compass. They may, they may talk compassion. They, they may signal that, yeah, they have compassion for this group or that group. But when it comes down to it, these things affect that part of the brain that is the reptilian mind. And whether voters agree with that, whether they want to say, yes, it does. They’ll never say that. But at the polls, it shows itself.

Farron Cousins:                  Yep.

Mike Papantonio:             A new poll found that 71% of Americans believe president Biden should not run for president again, as his term ends. Okay. What’s your take?

Farron Cousins:                  Um, he needs to say right now, I’m done.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  I, I mean, that is exactly what this man needs to come out and say. He needs to say, listen, I’m gonna work my butt off for you for these last two and a half years. But you rest assured I understand that this has not been perfect. I’m the bridge candidate is what he should say. I’m the bridge president.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. Well, he said that to begin with. That, you remember, he said, I’m only, I’m only gonna be a one term president.

Farron Cousins:                  Right.

Mike Papantonio:             I mean, no, go back and look, if you don’t believe me, he say, he said that. I’m gonna be one term president. But go ahead. I mean, so he’s the bridge president. Go ahead.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. And, and those are all the things he should say, but instead they’re out there reaffirming, nope, we’re running again in 2024. We see that our approval rating is, you know, headed into the thirties. You know, vice president Harris’ is even lower than that. We see that other people like Gavin Newsom poll better than this candidate right here. And they still refuse to step down. We know I’m gonna be in my mid eighties, you know, and that is a concern with a lot of these voters. I mean, what is it a third of them say that he’s too darn old to do this for another four years.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And they’re just whistling past the graveyard.

Mike Papantonio:             Right, right. What’s most interesting to me is 45% said he shouldn’t run because he’s a bad president. Okay. Now that’s important because it was only 30% that said he shouldn’t run because he’s too old. And I think that’s, I think that’s, those are very significant numbers. Only 30%, only 30% of the people that were polled said that they would even vote for him. These are Democrats, would only, would vote for him in a primary.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. They’ve, they’ve got very real problems. And unfortunately, as we’ve seen, the problems are not getting better.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  He is not a fighter. You have so many people who had supported this guy wholeheartedly from the start of the Democratic primaries that have now come out and said, what, you’re telling me I have to go fight when you’re sitting there doing nothing. Debra Messing. Right. Hugely outspoken.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah, yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Biden supporter from the very beginning, you know.

Mike Papantonio:             Good, good, good point here.

Farron Cousins:                  And she has come out and said, stop asking me to do more.

Mike Papantonio:             Right.

Farron Cousins:                  And you get off your butt and you actually do something.

Mike Papantonio:             The only good news here is that 61% of voters say that Trump should not run

Farron Cousins:                  Well. And you know, that’s kind of a callback to what I mentioned, you know, at the start of all this was that opens the door for somebody like Bezos.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  To waltz in and say, look, you don’t want this guy. You don’t want this guy. You love Amazon.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Everybody shops there, whether you wanna admit it or not, you all do. So why not give me a shot?

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And that’s, that’s even scarier than these two idiots.

Mike Papantonio:             Saw, saw an interesting article that Gavin Newsom’s dead on arrival only because he’s from California. If you had put him in the middle, middle America, yeah, he has a shot. But that, that’s something that’s interesting because I think he’s a good candidate. But if you start looking at what the problems are ahead, I think I agree with a lot of it.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, and we could end up seeing and I think this is exceptionally likely we could basically have Florida versus California. Two very large.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  But very different states.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So you could end up with DeSantis versus Newsom in 2024. It’d be a hell of a fight.

Mike Papantonio:             Oh, it would.

Farron Cousins:                  But, you know.

Mike Papantonio:             But, but middle America is still out there.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

The Biden administration is turning to TikTok to appeal to younger voters, but it’s that strategy going well? I saw this article, I kept thinking, wow. Okay. Your TikTokers, they’re not exactly his age group. You know, it’s not exactly what. I think the problem that I saw here is there’s no centralized messaging.

Farron Cousins:                  Right.

Mike Papantonio:             That the Democrats have lost their central, centralized messaging. And you had, you know, I, I think without that centralized messaging right now, they’re in trouble.

Farron Cousins:                  They, they are absolutely. And you know, they they’ve even brought in the people that are TikTok influencers.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  They brought them into the White House and actually had them help pitch the aid to Ukraine. You know, go, go.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Go to TikTok.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And get all this drummed up with Ukraine. And now they’re, you know, got, they’ve got these video clips of Biden, the massive CNN report on this and they’re sending ’em out to the same TikTok influencers saying, hey, this is a good way to, you know.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Spread this administration’s talking points for us, which, look.

Mike Papantonio:             You’re spreading to 15 year olds. 14 year olds. Certainly.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. No,

Mike Papantonio:             I mean.

Farron Cousins:                  Nobody wants to watch the old man on TikTok talk about politics.

Mike Papantonio:             More importantly, nobody’s in charge of the message. Used to be you’d have James Carville and Begala, Belgala. They’re kind of, they’re kind of long in the tooth right now.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             So maybe that’s where this is coming from. As a matter of fact, what really concerns me is there’s nobody at the top saying, you can’t do this in your messaging. I, I, I took a look at this story, a video of Tiara Mack, she, Rhode Island state Senator twerking on, on TikTok and, and this thing goes viral. Well don’t you call, don’t, I mean let’s, let’s show it. Let’s show it. I mean, this. Okay. So she’s twerking running for, she’s running for Senate, state Senate in Rhode Island. And she says, this is gonna have appeal to my voters. But nobody calls her and says, you know, why can’t we, why can’t you just get on our messaging? We have better messaging than this. And I think you’re probably gonna do better with our messaging. What do you think?

Farron Cousins:                  Right. It, it’s a party in total disarray and that’s why you have everybody, I guess, trying to go at their own, coming up with new, innovative ways to reach voters, which.

Mike Papantonio:             Is that innovative?

Farron Cousins:                  It’s, look, it’s certainly novel. I’ll give her that. But the thing is, you’re right. We don’t, who is the leader of the Democratic party right now?

Mike Papantonio:             Who makes the call to her and says, really? Do you have any idea what this is, this is all over the world. This, this little twerk now is all over the world and she’s running as a Democrat in Rhode Island as a Senator. What do, what do you think the GOP does with that?

Farron Cousins:                  Right. It, it, it is absolutely red meat. And when, we’ve seen it, right? If you go to any, you know, conservative news site, Fox news has had that clip on, you know, God knows how many times in the last week and a half.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Right wing news sites have it all over the place. And they’re trying to paint this as like, this is what.

Mike Papantonio:             This is Democrat.

Farron Cousins:                  Your whole party is.

Mike Papantonio:             No, no, this is Democrat.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             That’s right. This is, this is part of that, that Democrat notion of what America should look like.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, well, and it’s a lot of the same way that, you know, the, the liberal sites do it with Lauren Boebert and Marjorie Taylor Greene.

Mike Papantonio:             Of course, of course.

Farron Cousins:                  So people do have to be a little bit careful, you know, anything you do is gonna be used by the, the other side.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  I mean, they used the dance video from college that AOC did, which was totally harmless to attack her back then.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  I, I think we do need to be more.

Mike Papantonio:             Actually, I thought I was put a good video. It probably helped her get elected. I don’t know about that one though.

Farron Cousins:                  But, but what we need is somebody at the top of the Democratic party.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  To at least craft messaging and say, listen, here’s our talking points.

Mike Papantonio:             A president sometimes does that too, right?

Farron Cousins:                  Well, yeah. But, but again, I’ll ask the question. I don’t know who’s running the DNC right now?

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  I, I truly do not. And I do this every single day. I don’t know who’s in charge.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  I don’t know who is calling the shots with this Biden administration.

Mike Papantonio:             Let’s, let’s find it. Let’s find that person and then we do a show about it. Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  I think we need to.

Mike Papantonio:             I, I’d like to be able to identify that person and say, yeah, that’s the person that should call this Senator who’s twerking and say, you know, maybe that’s not a good idea for our messaging as a national organization. That’s what I think. Farron, thank you for joining me. Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  Thank you.

Mike Papantonio:             That’s all for this week. But all of these segments are gonna be available this coming week right here on this channel. And you can follow us at Twitter @AmericasLawyer. I’m Mike Papantonio and this has been America’s Lawyer where every week we tell you the stories that corporate media won’t tell you because their advertisers won’t let ’em or their political connections don’t allow for it. We’ll see next time.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.