Polls are currently showing that the Democratic Party is just about as unpopular as ever, so how did this happen? Mike Papantonio & Farron Cousins discuss more.


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Mike Papantonio:             Polls are currently showing that the Democratic party is just about as unpopular as ever. Uh, God, I, I hate to even say it because every time I talk about the Democrats, oh, that Papantonio he’s moved to the right. Really? No, I’m just trying to tell stories about what everything is being reported, what the polls are showing. Talk about this story.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. And this is, you know, for the record, this is from the New York magazine, which is a super liberal.

Mike Papantonio:             Yes, yes.

Farron Cousins:                  Publication, and it’s not an attack, it’s a warning for the Democrats.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  They right now, according to polls have a negative 19% approval rating, which is worse than the Republican party at negative 11, worse than Donald Trump at negative 17, worse than Kamala Harris who’s also at negative 17. But the fact that the Democratic party.

Mike Papantonio:             Let, let me ask you something. Give me some, round that out a little bit. These numbers, the minus 17, minus 19.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. It, it just means that there’s 19% more who say that they have an unfavorable view.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Than a favorable view.

Mike Papantonio:             Okay. Right.

Farron Cousins:                  And when you have a Republican party that to this day denies the results of the 2020 election, you got the Capitol riot, you’ve got all these nut jobs out there defending white supremacists. And when the general public looks and says, but I still like them better than these, how did this even happen? How is that even possible? I don’t have an answer for that because this is just plain nutty.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  At this point. And I guess it’s because Biden had these lofty promises, right? $50,000 student loan debt, I’m gonna take care of that.

Mike Papantonio:             Where is that? Is, is it even moving?

Farron Cousins:                  It keeps bouncing around every time the polls get low.

Mike Papantonio:             Well, Republicans are getting in the way of it. Let’s give him that. I mean, Republican.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             I don’t know that that changes anything anyway, because they.

Farron Cousins:                  The voters don’t care about that.

Mike Papantonio:             They don’t. As a matter of fact, there were some polls that said, if this passes, does it make any difference? And, and the answer was no. It, it did not make any difference. So how do they pull out of this, Farron? I mean, I, I hate to even pontificate about it because then, you know, I’m called this right winger who hates Democrats. Well, I’m not Democrat, I’m not Republican. I’m just calling balls and strikes.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. And, and right now the Democratic party is striking out on every front.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Right. The, the economy Biden was out there just a couple days ago, talking about how the Democrats are so much better on the economy than the Republicans. The public doesn’t buy it. Right. I, I saw a poll that says, majority of Americans say their paychecks today are actually lower than they were just a couple years ago. That, that’s the biggest issue for America right now. It’s not.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s the economy, it’s the economy stupid.

Farron Cousins:                  Exactly.

Mike Papantonio:             I mean, that’s the whole.

Farron Cousins:                  It always comes back to that. Are you better off than you were two years ago?

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Most Americans say no and they’re in charge. So they get punished.

Mike Papantonio:             You know, the other thing that’s showing really strongly right now is people, I call it the, the scared bejesus and that is where people are afraid of what they’re seeing in Ukraine as it seems to be expanding and developing, we just sent $40 billion more. They’re, they’re.

Farron Cousins:                  They can’t find baby formula.

Mike Papantonio:             People, yeah, they’re, they’re just afraid of there’s this, there’s this tension that’s out there that they blame on, on Joe Biden. And in defense of Joe Biden, it ain’t just Joe Biden.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             It’s the nut cases he’s surrounded himself with.

Farron Cousins:                  Well, and here’s the thing and you and I have had these conversations before. People have to understand the Democrats are not in such a bad position right now because everybody’s tuning into Fox news.

Mike Papantonio:             Mm-hmm.

Farron Cousins:                  Or because nobody’s watching MSNBC. You crunch the numbers on this, you got less than 1% of the population that is tuning in to, to Fox, MSNBC, CNN, Newsmax, One America, all of those combined.

Mike Papantonio:             Less, less than, less than 1%.

Farron Cousins:                  Less than 1% every day. So 99% of the American public, what are they doing? They’re waking up. They’re going to work. They’re taking the kids to school. They’re coming home, doing homework,

Mike Papantonio:             Sitting around the table saying, hey, we can’t

Farron Cousins:                  Saying, look, my paycheck is smaller today than it was two years ago.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. Or saying I can’t afford to go to the grocery store.

Farron Cousins:                  Right.

Mike Papantonio:             Because of, or when I go, there’s nothing there.

Farron Cousins:                  It’s not because they’ve all bought into propaganda. They’re not even exposed to the propaganda.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  Like everybody wants to think.

Mike Papantonio:             That, that, that statement you made is such a powerful statement. We, who, who is it that’s watching MSNBC and CNN and Fox? It is the, it, it’s the folks that are completely committed to their political ideology.

Farron Cousins:                  Yep.

Mike Papantonio:             And it’s less than 1%. And you’re saying 99% are driving the train and that less than 1% is in LA LA land. On the right they believe this is real politics. On the left they believe this is real politics. It’s not.

Farron Cousins:                  Right.

Mike Papantonio:             Farron Cousins, thank you for joining me. Okay.

Farron Cousins:                  Thank you.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.