Via America’s Lawyer: More information emerged last week in the Matt Gaetz scandal with new evidence directly implicating the congressmen in potential criminal activity. Mike Papantonio and Farron Cousins discuss more.


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Mike Papantonio:             More information emerged last week in the Matt Gaetz scandal with new evidence directly implicating the congressmen in potential criminal activity. You have followed this story more than any reporter in America, take it from there.

Farron Cousins:                  You know, I was actually starting to lose faith in the investigation. I thought for sure, Matt Gaetz may have already gotten away with this and then of course, last week, big story breaks from ABC news. Listen, uh, turns out Joel Greenburg, the indicted Seminole county tax collector who’s good friends with Gaetz, has been turning over thousands of pieces of evidence. This includes videos, photographs, text messages, emails, everything you could possibly want and yes, according to some of the evidence that has, I guess been leaked, it does appear to directly implicate Matt Gaetz in this, you know, underage sex scandal.

Mike Papantonio:             Here’s the problem I’ve said, it’s time, we have a DOJ department of justice that has no courage. If it’s not low hanging fruit, the trial lawyers will not go to trial to try a case. It’s got to be a lock stock deal where they know absolutely 100% they’re going to win. That’s how they think at the department of justice. Otherwise there would already be indictments flying. Don’t you think?

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah. Matt Gaetz would have already been hauled away in handcuffs at this point, especially based on just, just the one piece of evidence we got last week where Greenberg was messaging with this very young woman said, hey, you know, my fee is $400. He said, great. I’ll bring my friend. You bring your friend, $400 a piece and he sends a picture of Matt Gaetz and said, here’s my friend. And sadly enough, it was a picture of Matt Gaetz at an elementary school.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  And she said, oh, he’s really cute. And Greenberg says, yes, he is. Uh, by the way, do you do ecstasy? Like, because he’s already pitching the drug part too.

Mike Papantonio:             In, in the same conversation.

Farron Cousins:                  Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             Okay. I got, I got Matt Gaetz is my pal. We want to meet with you and they want to meet, they want to meet at, and Jason Pirozzolo. Jason Pirozzolo was the guy who led the medical marijuana fight in Florida. So they want to meet over at Jason’s house with a little ecstasy, I guess, the way these emails read. This is a craziest story I’ve ever seen. And for the department of justice still be saying, I don’t know if we got enough. My God, we go to trial with a fraction of that kind of thing in what we do.

Farron Cousins:                  I mean, and Greenberg has already had his sentencing delayed because of how much information he is handing over to prosecutors. So obviously they know what they’re getting is gold. They know what they’re getting is trustworthy. They’ve been able to verify.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah.

Farron Cousins:                  So the fact that this man is still allowed to travel the country with Marjorie Taylor Greene, giving ridiculous speeches. No, I mean, we’ve got the evidence. Let’s make it happen.

Mike Papantonio:             Keep up your reporting, keep at it.

Farron Cousins:                  Oh, I will never, I will never stop.

Mike Papantonio:             Thank you for joining me.

Farron Cousins:                  Thank you.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.