Via America’s Lawyer: Attorney Kim Adams joins Mike Papantonio to discuss the $2 billion verdict against Monsanto for the California couple with cancer over Roundup.

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Mike Papantonio:             On Monday, a jury awarded a California couple $2 billion after they determined that the cancer they developed was because of their exposure to Monsanto’s Roundup weed killer. Joining me to talk about this is attorney Kim Adams, who’s a specialist in these types of catastrophic kind of cases. Kim, tell us a little bit about what happened out in California. This is the third time they’d been hit. Millions, now it’s billions and millions of dollars and shareholders have got to be saying, I want out of this stock and you know what my advice is, get out of the stock now.

Kim Adams:                           Right.

Mike Papantonio:             How many cases are out there? What happened in California?

Kim Adams:                           Right. So starting with California. You have a married couple exposed for about 30 years. Residential landscaping, that’s what people don’t realize. This isn’t just big time farmers. This is in your backyard taking care of your landscaping. So both, both plaintiff’s diagnosed with non Hodgkin’s lymphoma within a matter of four years of each other. They, you know, Monsanto tried to take a new take on this and blame everything else they were exposed to. Blamed other illnesses in their past history and the jury just didn’t buy it, they didn’t buy it at all.

Mike Papantonio:             Well, okay, here’s what we know. We know that the industry, this is what’s showing up in every trial, the industry went out and bought a bunch of scientific prostitutes. That’s the way I describe them. They’re called in this business, they’re called biostitutes. They work in universities. They’re making $150,000 a year. Monsanto comes in and pays them another $200,000, they phony up literature. What we’ve actually found is Monsanto writing the literature.

Kim Adams:                           Right.

Mike Papantonio:             That Roundup is safe and these biostitutes signing off on the literature and saying, yeah, there’s no problem with any of this stuff. So that’s, that’s the biggest thing this jury is reacting to. That and the hit list that I want to talk about in a minute, but go ahead.

Kim Adams:                           No, the jury is absolutely, they’re not stupid. They’re getting it. They understand that Monsanto has spent more time and energy disproving science that’s out there for, for our safety as they have trying to actually prove that this product is safe or make it safer, change the label. And so Monsanto is just hands down, been corrupt with regard to exactly what you said by either buying the scientist and buying the science or moving those scientists into their camp so that they can then support their litigation fund.

Mike Papantonio:             Okay. Two other, two other moving parts. One is that we know about the hit list that’s just coming out. The hit list in Europe where the company actually went out and targeted scientists and doctors that were trying to call alarm to how dangerous Roundup is. How it causes cancer, how it caused potential birth defects, how it causes variations of all kinds of illnesses. These doctors were saying, I want to tell the truth. The company then went and targeted them, made them lose their jobs at universities. Went after their job if they were working for government, made their life miserable. Actually had a hit list.

Kim Adams:                           Right.

Mike Papantonio:             That Monsanto used to go after these people. Takes you to the EPA. How bad and dysfunctional, how stupid. I mean, there’s no other way to put it. How stupid and corrupt has the EPA been here?

Kim Adams:                           Well, I think the EPA has certainly not helped the situation at all. These scientists that the EPA puts up, they sort of had turned a blind eye. Right? The EPA thought they had it right at first.

Mike Papantonio:             No, they didn’t.

Kim Adams:                           Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             I disagree with you. The way I see this case, I know the EPA. You’ve worked, you’ve worked with me on cases.

Kim Adams:                           Right.

Mike Papantonio:             We’ve said this to, to ourselves thousands of times.

Kim Adams:                           Right.

Mike Papantonio:             EPA is corrupt.

Kim Adams:                           It is corrupt.

Mike Papantonio:             And so what happened with the EPA here is they got bought off.

Kim Adams:                           That’s exactly what I was going to say. Right. Right.

Mike Papantonio:             They were, what we saw was day one, somebody is working with the EPA, day two, they’re working with Monsanto. That’s what I mean by bought off.

Kim Adams:                           Exactly. No, I agree with you.

Mike Papantonio:             They move from working for the agency to working with the industry.

Kim Adams:                           Right.

Mike Papantonio:             And they’re making a lot more money. So the industry says, while they’re working there, hey Joe, can you help us with this? The people that did this with the EPA need to be specifically targeted.

Kim Adams:                           I agree with you.

Mike Papantonio:             And I if there are no longer with the EPA, I’m even thinking about bringing them into the lawsuit that we have set to go in, in January in East St Louis. I’m thinking about targeting the EPA folks.

Kim Adams:                           Yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             That moved from the EPA into private industry working with Monsanto after they helped promote Roundup and say it was safe.

Kim Adams:                           And that’s going to be the majority of them, right. The majority of them were bought off as you said, and, and have moved now into Monsanto territory. They’re now up the chain on Monsanto and they just have no, it’s almost as though they just don’t care obviously about the illnesses that they’re born in. I mean this is cancer that we’re talking about and they have just completely.

Mike Papantonio:             Well, it’s fatal cancer.

Kim Adams:                           Yeah, fatal cancer.

Mike Papantonio:             This is not something you just…

Kim Adams:                           You cannot cure it.

Mike Papantonio:             Yeah. There’s no cure.

Kim Adams:                           There’s no care for non Hodgkin lymphoma.

Mike Papantonio:             Non Hodgkin lymphoma.

Kim Adams:                           You go into remission and then you live with for the rest of your life, the idea that you’ve got cancer.

Mike Papantonio:             This couple lived with it seven years.

Kim Adams:                           That’s right.

Mike Papantonio:             They’ve been fighting this for seven years.

Kim Adams:                           One was, yeah.

Mike Papantonio:             And you know what? The company had that information that they knew would cause non Hodgkin lymphoma right in their file cabinets.

Kim Adams:                           Right.

Mike Papantonio:             And they tried to cover it up and say, no, this isn’t here. And they tried to buy off politicians. They tried to buy off regulators. They tried to buy off the media.

Kim Adams:                           Right.

Mike Papantonio:             How about the media’s role? The media has been part of this cover up because they wouldn’t report on Roundup because they’re getting too many advertising dollars.

Kim Adams:                           Exactly, and the sheer arrogance of Monsanto and now Bayer, into knowing that what they could have done to help protect us. Right? Cover your hands, cover your feet. They’re doing that in other countries, but the American people did not get the same level of respect that they were given to other people. It’s a sheer arrogance.

Mike Papantonio:             Lobby. Lobby, lobby dough.

Kim Adams:                           Yes.

Mike Papantonio:             Lobby dollars. Kim, thanks for joining. I want to continue talking about this because this is such a critical story.

Kim Adams:                           It is.

Mike Papantonio:             Thank you for joining me and thanks for the great work you do out there. Okay.

Kim Adams:                           Thank you.

Mike Papantonio is an American attorney and television and radio talk show host. He is past president of The National Trial Lawyers, the most prestigious trial lawyer association in America; and is one of the few living attorneys inducted into the Trial Lawyer Hall of Fame. He hosts the international television show "America's Lawyer"; and co-hosts Ring of Fire Radio, a nationally syndicated weekly radio program, with Robert F. Kennedy, Jr. and Sam Seder.