Dr. Crystal Fleming has some ideas on how we can be less stupid on race, namely to stop thinking about them as simply individual acts but as part of larger systems of power. Dr. Fleming and Thom Hartmann bring up the recent Serena Williams scandal to document how discussing issues as acts of individual prejudice instead of as acts of power limit our understanding and ability to fight racism.

Thom is a four-time Project Censored-award-winning, New York Times best-selling author. His national daily progressive radio talk show is distributed to radio stations nationwide by Westwood One, Pacifica, and Free Speech TV. More people listen daily to the Thom Hartmann Program than any other progressive talk show in the nation.