Thom Hartmann talks to a caller whose friend tried to persuade him the Kochs just got a bad rap because of Obama (of course!). Thom sets him straight with just a few of the things they really stand for.

Thom is a four-time Project Censored-award-winning, New York Times best-selling author. His national daily progressive radio talk show is distributed to radio stations nationwide by Westwood One, Pacifica, and Free Speech TV. More people listen daily to the Thom Hartmann Program than any other progressive talk show in the nation.