Thom talks with Charles Sauer (Economist, President – The Market Institute) about the stark difference in life expectancies between blue and red states, and debate strategies for bringing the red states up to par and causes for why they aren’t.

Thom is a four-time Project Censored-award-winning, New York Times best-selling author. His national daily progressive radio talk show is distributed to radio stations nationwide by Westwood One, Pacifica, and Free Speech TV. More people listen daily to the Thom Hartmann Program than any other progressive talk show in the nation.