On Fox News Monday, guest Seton Motley argued that the best way to help minimum wage earners get ahead is to prevent them from having children. They were discussing Mayor Robert Macdonald’s plan to publicly shame welfare recipients when Motley suggested his “solution” and argued that shame is a powerful motivator.

“We know it is because the left has warped and redirected it, and wants to shame taxpayers for not paying enough taxes and for wanting to know what government money is being used to do,” said Motley. “Government does a terrible job of tracking how they spend our money.”

“If we publish the welfare recipients, we’ll track it,” Motley said. “We know there’s widespread welfare abuse. Government doesn’t seem to care to do anything about reining it in. If the American taxpayers who are paying the freight know who’s getting welfare, they can keep a better eye on who’s abusing the system, etc. And perhaps we can do some real serious welfare reform.”

The discussion continued until Rebecca Vallas countered that the “real shame here is that our minimum wage in this country is a poverty wage.”

She argued that the wage isn’t enough to lift a family of three out of poverty and Motley saw his opportunity to strike.

“Once again, let’s shame the people who are creating jobs rather than shaming the people who are receiving welfare,” Motley said, “She’s got half the table right on raising the minimum wage. Of course, the number of people on assistance will explode because of all the jobs that will be killed as a result of the raising of the minimum wage.”

“The problem is a family of three is not supposed to be living on a minimum wage,” said Motley. “If you’re making minimum wage, you shouldn’t be having children and trying to raise a family on it.”