Gabby Pacheco, a DREAMer activist, told Chris Hayes that back in 2013, she met with Donald Trump and the two of them discussed a “partnership between his beauty pageants and the Hispanic Heritage Awards.” According to Pacheco, after the meeting, Trump said, “You’ve convinced me on immigration reform.”

“He really opened his doors, talked to us, and asked questions about immigration, and then said, ‘You’ve convinced me, I got it,” Pacheco said to Hayes.

How long before MSNBC gives Hayes the axe for doing actual journalism?

Hayes next guest, Ohio Sheriff Richard Jones, praised Trump’s immigration views.

“I believe that we have people here that should not be here,” said Jones.