Televangelist Jim Bakker wants Americans to know that it’s right to be skeptical of Jade Helm 15. After serving time in prison for fraud in the 90’s, Bakker returned to the airwaves to spread his message of doubt and deception.

In a discussion with Rick Wiles, the pair ventured an idea (read: conspiracy theory) that the real purpose of Jade Helm 15 is to instill social distrust and unrest in communities. Thus preparing the country for another civil war.

“The government is saying, ‘All we’re doing is, we’ve got our troops practicing for foreign wars,’ but I’m not so sure about that,” said Wiles. “I think they are getting ready for social unrest.”

The pair then discussed a recent decision by the state of Texas to withdraw its gold from the repository in New York City.

“This is why Jade Helm 15 is listing Texas as a hostile territory,” said Wiles. “We’re getting close to a civil war.”